eduard Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Stupid questions do not exist!Stupid replies do (I received many of them!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drycodez Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Stupid questions do not exist!Stupid replies do (I received many of them!) BOTH EXIST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Perhaps "stupid" isn't the right word for either questions or asnwers.Questions can be "bad" (like "invalid"; like asking "What's the color of radiowaves"), "inappropriate", "pointless" and "redundant".Answers that are "bad" would technically be classified as "stupid" (if I told you "radiowaves are grey", that would be a bad/stupid answer), but the same categories apply to them.The questions you've asked were many times in one of the other categories. You shouldn't be surprised that the answers match the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skemcin Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 You left out stupid statements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Perhaps "stupid" isn't the right word for either questions or asnwers.Questions can be "bad" (like "invalid"; like asking "What's the color of radiowaves"), "inappropriate", "pointless" and "redundant".Answers that are "bad" would technically be classified as "stupid" (if I told you "radiowaves are grey", that would be a bad/stupid answer), but the same categories apply to them.The questions you've asked were many times in one of the other categories. You shouldn't be surprised that the answers match the question.Could be! But I wrote in Critiques that my situation has been changed (moved to another place!) Since then I haven´t post any ´bad´ question! (2 months ago!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Perhaps "stupid" isn't the right word for either questions or asnwers.Questions can be "bad" (like "invalid"; like asking "What's the color of radiowaves"), "inappropriate", "pointless" and "redundant".Answers that are "bad" would technically be classified as "stupid" (if I told you "radiowaves are grey", that would be a bad/stupid answer), but the same categories apply to them.The questions you've asked were many times in one of the other categories. You shouldn't be surprised that the answers match the question.Thatt answers don´t match ok, but that persons make a joke of me not ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thatt answers don´t match ok, but that persons make a joke of me not ok!No. I said "the answer matches the question". That was not a typo. I do mean that.If you ask a redundant question, you shouldn't be surprised to get a redundant answer. When you say "the tutorial on X says that I must do Y for Z to happen. But how do I do Z?", you shouldn't be suprised that the answer repeats what the tutorial says, while at the same time you're being told to actually follow the tutorial. It's not "persons make a joke of" you. It's that persons tell you what in their view should be obvious... for your own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 No. I said "the answer matches the question". That was not a typo. I do mean that.If you ask a redundant question, you shouldn't be surprised to get a redundant answer. When you say "the tutorial on X says that I must do Y for Z to happen. But how do I do Z?", you shouldn't be suprised that the answer repeats what the tutorial says, while at the same time you're being told to actually follow the tutorial. It's not "persons make a joke of" you. It's that persons tell you what in their view should be obvious... for your own good.I didn´t refer to you (because you never did!), but others did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I didn´t refer to you (because you never did!), but others did!I'm intentionally monitoring the way I express myself, because I understand that you can't "hear" me, and that your English isn't very good. You just "read" me and understand what you can, filling in the gaps for the rest.Not everyone is as... err... "articulate" "verse" careful, as me, especially native speakers. That is because, being raised with English, they don't see (for example) the phrase "this is necessary" as being any different from the phrase "you must do this". They view them as synonyms, which they tehnically are. I see them as different, with the former first being a more complicated form, and I would therefore avoid using it when I know I'm dealing with someone who's English skills are questionable not good.The point is that everyone is always telling you the same thing, and they always mean well. If I'm an exception, it's only because I managed to make replies that you could read correctly, not because others are "mean" and I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMage Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'm intentionally monitoring the way I express myself, because I understand that you can't "hear" me, and that your English isn't very good. You just "read" me and understand what you can, filling in the gaps for the rest.Not everyone is as... err... "articulate" "verse" careful, as me, especially native speakers. That is because, being raised with English, they don't see (for example) the phrase "this is necessary" as being any different from the phrase "you must do this". They view them as synonyms, which they tehnically are. I see them as different, with the former first being a more complicated form, and I would therefore avoid using it when I know I'm dealing with someone who's English skills are questionable not good.The point is that everyone is always telling you the same thing, and they always mean well. If I'm an exception, it's only because I managed to make replies that you could read correctly, not because others are "mean" and I'm not.Boen makes a good point here. We're all trying to help you. I, too, try to keep my explanations simple because I know there are members of this forum whose English is not that good. Unfortunately, I probably fail quite often because English is the only language I know and it's difficult for me to know what speakers of other languages can understand or phrases that are not so easily translated by Google (or other service).Please remember this when reading our responses, Eduard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffman Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I can remember many posts where the writers are frustrated. I do not remember any that make a joke of you. Maybe your limited English does not help you know the difference.In general, this board is VERY polite to beginners and speakers of other languages. Like boen, many of the seniors know English as a second language. I've seen other boards (which I avoid) where the writers can be very cruel to beginners and non-native speakers. I have been on this board for a long time because it is not like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Unfortunately, I probably fail quite often...The basic rule of thumb I use is that the less distinct syllables a phrase has, the better, and if they're equal in number, choose the one in which the word with most syllables is the fewest. In the example above I gave, the two phrases are basically equal in number of syllables (I can't really detect the difference), but in the second, all words are of one syllable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMage Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The basic rule of thumb I use is that the less distinct syllables a phrase has, the better, and if they're equal in number, choose the one in which the word with most syllables is the fewest. In the example above I gave, the two phrases are basically equal in number of syllables (I can't really detect the difference), but in the second, all words are of one syllable.That's a good rule. I'll try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Although my english isn´ t that good (I doubt that, because my level of english is advanced), I exactly know when persons are making a fool of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmdpa Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Although my english isn´ t that good (I doubt that, because my level of english is advanced), I exactly know when persons are making a fool of me!I don't think anyone tries to make a fool of you. I have seen in some of your past forum topics where you might have taken someone's post as making of fool of you. But as far as I have seen, that only happened in the case that Boen said:If you ask a redundant question, you shouldn't be surprised to get a redundant answer. When you say "the tutorial on X says that I must do Y for Z to happen. But how do I do Z?", you shouldn't be suprised that the answer repeats what the tutorial says, while at the same time you're being told to actually follow the tutorial. It's not "persons make a joke of" you. It's that persons tell you what in their view should be obvious... for your own good.I think it is very important to remember (as Boen said) that the answer will match the question. Redundant questions will get redundant answers. Don't take it as an insult when that's the answer you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 I don't think anyone tries to make a fool of you. I have seen in some of your past forum topics where you might have taken someone's post as making of fool of you. But as far as I have seen, that only happened in the case that Boen said:I think it is very important to remember (as Boen said) that the answer will match the question. Redundant questions will get redundant answers. Don't take it as an insult when that's the answer you get.I´ve never written that anybody tries to make a fool of me! I´ve gotten a lot of (very) good replies! Also the replies to this post are (very) good! Unfortunately there are ..... (e. g. HTML forum topic: Words in different colors, post 12, 13) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmdpa Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I´ve never written that anybody tries to make a fool of me!I'm sorry for miscommunication...that was the just conclusion I came to from this post:... I exactly know when persons are making a fool of me!I've found that when I put more details and research into my questions, then the people replying to my topic can give me the answer I'm looking for. Part of effective learning is learning to ask the right questions, whether you are asking Google or the W3Schools forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 I want to write one thing and then end this topic! I´m myself teacher (teaching english to chilean persons). For me is much more important that their motivation is great than their knowledge!For these fora my knowledge isn´t great, but my motivation is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescientist Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I´ve never written that anybody tries to make a fool of me! I´ve gotten a lot of (very) good replies! Also the replies to this post are (very) good! Unfortunately there are ..... (e. g. HTML forum topic: Words in different colors, post 12, 13)it's always funny how you leave out the part where we've already given you the knowledge to answer your question in past threads. (pretty much all within the space of a week)http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=39349http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=39304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 it's always funny how you leave out the part where we've already given you the knowledge to answer your question in past threads. (pretty much all within the space of a week)http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=39349http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=39304 You must understand that your ´humor´ isn´t mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Boen makes a good point here. We're all trying to help you. I, too, try to keep my explanations simple because I know there are members of this forum whose English is not that good. Unfortunately, I probably fail quite often because English is the only language I know and it's difficult for me to know what speakers of other languages can understand or phrases that are not so easily translated by Google (or other service).Please remember this when reading our responses, Eduard.It´s not only the language, but I hope you understand your (american) humor isn´t mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 Boen makes a good point here. We're all trying to help you. I, too, try to keep my explanations simple because I know there are members of this forum whose English is not that good. Unfortunately, I probably fail quite often because English is the only language I know and it's difficult for me to know what speakers of other languages can understand or phrases that are not so easily translated by Google (or other service).Please remember this when reading our responses, Eduard.P. s. translations by Google are (very) bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 The basic rule of thumb I use is that the less distinct syllables a phrase has, the better, and if they're equal in number, choose the one in which the word with most syllables is the fewest. In the example above I gave, the two phrases are basically equal in number of syllables (I can't really detect the difference), but in the second, all words are of one syllable.Is your head a computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I want to write one thing and then end this topic! I´m myself teacher (teaching english to chilean persons). For me is much more important that their motivation is great than their knowledge!For these fora my knowledge isn´t great, but my motivation is! P. s. translations by Google are (very) bad!Excuse my non-american humor here, but... do you have a split personality? If you teach English to chilleans, why do you use Google translate? If you're qualified to teach, you're qualified to translate with nothing more than a dictionary.Is your head a computer? I only invoke the rule if I have more than one phrase in mind. And it gets easy after you memorize the more often used phrases. Nowadays, I almost never invoke it.(In computer terms, I've "cached" most of the "op codes" in my "RAM" ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduard Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 Excuse my non-american humor here, but... do you have a split personality? If you teach English to chilleans, why do you use Google translate? If you're qualified to teach, you're qualified to translate with nothing more than a dictionary. I only invoke the rule if I have more than one phrase in mind. And it gets easy after you memorize the more often used phrases. Nowadays, I almost never invoke it.(In computer terms, I've "cached" most of the "op codes" in my "RAM" )I don´t use Google translator for teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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