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Hmm, well, what sort of games are you interested in making? Most modern games made to run natively on Windows or most consoles are written in C++ (or some variant of). Web design isn't such a good introduction to programming (maybe server-side scripting, but not all the rest of it) - I would learn some simpler languages that still give you a good theoretical basis, like Java, and then dive in. Learning markup languages isn't going to help you with that sort of programming.Of course, it's still fun, and gives you a lot of opportunities to create great things!

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Oh... well at the moment my goal is not to create a complex game. Work on something basic such as do-no-touch-the-walls type of game will do for now and I'll work my way up from there. I'm not too sure what type of coding I will need, for there seem to be so many. Staying away from larger tasks, I don't want to work with a console, just creat a simple program that would run as a game. Something you might see on GameJolt.But you are right that its still fun, I've enjoyed most of what I have already learned. XML I can use on Playcrafter (again a kids site), but its not to my fullest interest to stay there. But would PHP good to learn for my goals in the long run?

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GameJolt's games appear to be created in Java, however most games of that type are made in Flash. Java is a nice language to learn - very logical, and without the fiddly things like memory management you have in languages like C, but still object-oriented, with strong typing. I don't quite understand what you mean by not "working with a console".If you want to create games, then PHP is slightly irrelevant (in the long run). Still good programming experience though.P.S. Why don't you also have a chat to your IT faculty? I'm sure they'll have some ideas too (but hopefully not Game Maker :)).

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It's not the programming language that makes something easier to pick up. It's the API. JavaScript is a great learning tool if you treat the browser like a console (ie, just basic input output). But if you really want to learn about programming (the biggest difference, in my experience, is memory management) then any IDE that works with a console is a good start. In other words, stay away from the GUI interface until you understand what you're doing. I'm old-school, so I would personally recommend C as your first language. From there you can go to Java or C++, and that would mostly be an expansion of your skills, not starting from scratch. Again, stick with the console approach before you try a GUI. The nice thing about IDEs that operate in a console only is you can usually find FREE ones; just download them.

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Well I don't exactly see a tutorial for C here so I guess I'm off to Google it. I guess that book on PHP will have to wait for now. Well thanks for your help, I'm sure to find the knowledge I seek now. Also on other note, I found a site that might help me out with C. C programming tutorial. You think this will be good enough for now?And by console I was thinking of a gaming platform like the Xbox... an Xbox console... guess you were referring to the computer hardware. Yeah I'm not too bright on computer terminology. Guess something else I might want to learn. And as for chatting with IT faculty, I could but it would just seem easier to not deal with it.

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W3Schools only deals with languages with common applications in the web (hence the W3). The text you found seems quite good, however.And I at least was thinking of this type of console.

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You know what? Why not just learn it all :) I looked into C and it seems to be a tricky language to learn. But then again, I'm not sure if RS-232 would be even useful at all. As the article stated, it has been replaced by USB so wouldn't I be learning a dead language in other words? It may be easier, but I don't see it reaping me benefits. Just read the excerpt from the article..."Today, RS-232 has mostly been replaced in personal computers by USB for local communications."

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RS-232 is a serial port, you wouldn't want to try to use that. Most recent computers don't even have a serial port any more (maybe some sound cards still include a serial port to plug in an old joystick). If you want to make a desktop game, look into using C++ with OpenGL or DirectX. The NeHe site is all about games programming using OpenGL and C++.

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No, no, I wasn't saying to use RS-232 (:)) - it's just what I thought of when you said "console" (from working with routers - you connect through rollover cables (RJ-45 to RS-232) when you want to configure them).

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Hello, my name is.......Sensi :)Im here to try to learn how to cut some corners.Try to get some simple ''need to know info'' about some problems i have.I have made diffrent codes and scripts and now its like a big puzzle,need help to put my puzzle bits in the right places to make it work :)I will make a post about 1 question at a time,but here are some short info(smarty,hooks,modules,php,sql,html5,mp4,flash)I Hope there is a prestashop guru on this forum,to help me with some of my questions.I have a online shop and i want to try to get it ready before nexth month,so i can focus on just learning php,sql "step by step" on w3school.Here are some of the programs i use,photoshop cs4,illustator cs4,dreamveawer cs4 and some flash programs.Still alot to lear about the programs tho,but i try just to lear what i need to know.Well that was abit about me :)Regards Sensi

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Hey guys I'm Squishy Crayons. I would've posted earlier but it took me FOREVER to get the validation link in my emailAnyways, I'm a computer science major at LSU. I don't really know much about HTML and CSS besides going through the tutorials on w3schools. I want to learn it cuz it seems pretty cool and helpful. I'm here right now because I took on a project to build a website and man was it tough. It took me an eternity just to create a simple little website.I hope to post here often (mostly for help though) but maybe somebody I will teach other n00bs a thing or two :)

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Guest Beverly Cain

My name is Beverly and I am new and working on being able to develope decent web designs. Considering taking college level courses to make this a profession.Beverly

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Welcome Beverly. Taking classes can certainly help and look good on a resume. Look for a school that has a real web design program or area. An IT department where they mostly have word processing and spreadsheet-type classes, and just 1-2 web classes, might be clueless, and you could actually learn obsolete stuff. I'm not saying all are like that, but there are plenty. I am a college professor. I know.

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Guest NickH

howdy everyone :)I'm Nick and just starting out with Web Design and Development hopefully going to TAFE next semester to study a diploma in Website Development to get my foot in the door but thats still about 3 months away so im going to get in as much practice as I can I've finished both the HTML and CSS tests on w3schools and i also did IT last year for school and in that we did some web development which includedjavascript/css/html/WYSIWYG thanks :)

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Hi I'm brand new here, I'm teaching myself HTML and CSS by making a website for some small business owners I know. Always been kind of interested in web development and design but never had a project to get me into it. I like it a lot so far and I'm thinking about learning as much as I can then finding an internship of some kind, or perhaps a good school.Question thing:Full name: Seriously?Birth date: 1988Gender: Lady Gaga?Country of residance: CANADACity of residance: VancouverHeight: 5'7"Weight: 140 lbsEyes: GreenHair: BrownSmoking/Drinking/Drugs: No/Yes/NoFavourite Music: electronic/dance if I'm out, indie/ambient to work to.Favourite Movies: comedyInterests: the internet.

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Hi friends, This is my first post and i'm very excited!!I just started to learn what HTML and CSS is and I'm very much loving it. I'm just relying on free online resourses and i'm very novice.So I'm looking forward to get helps from you friendz!! :)

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Hi together!I stubled across w3schools.com after looking for a good way to learn HTML - after taking a closer look at the site, I noticed this forum. :) So here I am. I look forward to learning more languages, and spending time on here!

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My name is John A. Davis. I work for a government agency in Portland, Oregon, I live in Gresham (this is a suburb of Portland, OR). I am a database/web programmer using one of each, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET (C# and VB), javascript, AJAX, Tomcat, IIS, Apache, VBA, MS Access. I guess you would call me a Generalist versus a Specialist. I can usually bring something in under estimated cost just by weeding out the rest of the light-bulb crew I work with.I have several websites (C#, VB.NET) I am paid to be webmaster/developer and it's nice getting those checks in the mail monthly.I developed and maintain (PHP) the hike leader signup website for the Mazamas Climbing Club. This is a volunteer effort.The love of my life is my Dance List , which is a list of dancing in cities.My hobbies are going dancing, skiing, hiking, movies, health food, exercise, figuring out ways to use my digital camera(s) to make movies and take pictures of dance halls inside and out.John

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Hello everyone. I'm a PHP/mySQL programmer, and also familiar with Javascript, CSS, etc. I'm self-employed and own/operate a variety of sites. I've been visiting W3Schools for years and years (great site!) but just recently joined the forum here. I was a perl coder for several years until I stumbled across PHP. I liked PHP, stopped coding in perl on the spot and never looked back. :)I believe someone else I know has just joined here as well, a friend by the name of "Wirehopper".

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Hi -I'm looking forward to learning and sharing at W3Schools forums. I spent a lot of time in the XHTML and javascript areas of W3Schools.com (thank you), and a fair amount of time using the validators at W3C.org (thank you again).I consider myself a LAMP/RIA engineer. In addition to the basic stack, I use Zend Framework, dojo, eZ publish, SugarCRM and ImageMagick. I've been doing some mobile web work lately, as well.:)

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Hey gang,I'm pretty much a newbie to web design and programming.I've been using W3Schools on and off for a few years now to learn what I do know, so thanks to any contributors.I look forward to picking your brains on a few things in the future.

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