Grantius Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I have just begun using W3 schools and find it super informative, i decided to drop in and say a few words. I noticed that there is no mention of the <marquee> tag. I just thought that a brief discussion of this tag would be helpful for the site. I have heard it is not fully supported though so that could be a problem. I found a little on the tag after doing a quick search on google, here is a site with a brief description of marquee-specific atributes.Some random site which pales in comparison with W3schoolsThats about itGrantI have a site at cafepressbut since i can't promote or sell stuff from these forums...i'll just say that my site is atwww.cafepress.com/########=warontshirtsi know half of my tags are capitalized, i'm going to fix all that, i started out with no html knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Man Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 marquee: Microsoft proprietary tag, invented to compete against Netscape way back. http://www.goer.org/Journal/2003/Oct/index.html#26^A good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionsketch Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 not to mention, a very noobish thing to use on a website... almost as bad as <blink> =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alzable Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 When I was a noob I used it on my site...its still there but im makin a new site anyway!Its wise for them not to display it because its not an official tag and many hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkstar Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 not to mention, a very noobish thing to use on a website... almost as bad as <blink> =D<{POST_SNAPBACK}> not if you want a news-ticker, or something like that...<marquee> is deprec now. so browsers will eventually stop supporting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shinta Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Marquee is old and not used anymore. I think you can use css instead though, and it is in the css tutorial I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate570 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Marquees can be very proffesional used with a proper color-coordinated table and filter:alpha(Opacity="20") or w/e. OnMouseOut="this.stop"Ask dan the prof! he used marquees to create a VERY cool html fader news box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate570 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Marquees can be very proffesional used with a proper color-coordinated table and filter:alpha(Opacity="20") or w/e. OnMouseOut="this.stop"Ask dan the prof! he used marquees to create a VERY cool html fader news box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shinta Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 You are better of not using a news fader because it creates problems later on when you need to handle visually impaired users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Are there any other tags aside from marquee that is not included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shinta Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Included in what? XHTML or HTML? HTML supports marquee I think, but tey won't for long, and xhtml definately doesn't support marquee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCkEdStYlZ` Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 well in the CSS tutorial there are missing items, but again they are Microsoft's own tags and aren't reccommended scrollbar-face-color: #; scrollbar-shadow-color: #; scrollbar-highlight-color: #; scrollbar-3dlight-color: #; scrollbar-darkshadow-color: #; scrollbar-track-color: #; scrollbar-arrow-color: #; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Man Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Included in what? XHTML or HTML? HTML supports marquee I think, but tey won't for long, and xhtml definately doesn't support marquee.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Marquee is not valid in any HTML version. Same for blink, and for tons of other tags (mainly Microsoft's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Included in what? XHTML or HTML? HTML supports marquee I think, but tey won't for long, and xhtml definately doesn't support marquee.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> included in HTML 4.01 and XHTML 1.0,Do you know other tags not listed there? aside form marquee and blink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCkEdStYlZ` Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 ok browsers WILL support the marquee tag, despite the fact that it is not proper HTML, the only difference is that if you decided that you should validate your HTML/XHTML then you would fail validation. basically if you don't mind having invalid markup then you're good to go.there are 3 or 4 other tags that are out there, not valid HTML tags, these along with the marquee tag are generated by Microsoft, in a language called MS-HTML. MS-HTML quite often will not validate as HTML or XHTML so it's highly not reccommended using these tags. yes the marquee tag will display in all browsers, the other tags will not however. there are also extra tags for CSS as I stated above, again if you validate your CSS it will fail. anything you can do in MS-HTML you can do in HTML and Javascript, so that's the best way to go to make your markup valid, and to make your page work in all browsers.* anyone that uses Internet Explorer I highly suggest dropping it for something along the lines of Mozilla FireFox, as this browser is one of the most standards complient browsers on the net (meaning it uses valid HTML).Download LinksMOZILLA FIREFOXNETSCAPE NAVIGATOR(Plus you will find it near to impossible to get spyware / adware in these browsers. very clever things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 something along the lines of Mozilla FireFoxOr better yet, Opera... Opera has the best css support, and also html I should think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shinta Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Validity is my number one problem with <marquee>, but my 2nd is that it just plain old looks bad. IMHO if you want things moving all over your page you should reconsider what you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCkEdStYlZ` Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 lmao yea does make ya sound kinda loopy lol... but tickers often use something along marquee lines... although i did manage to find a decent javascript for marquees which should pass validation http://dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex2/cmarquee2.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuneHarmonic Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 If you're so content on using a marquee in html tho, u could try using a xhtml 1.1 transitional dtd... I think that works, then again if u want something neat u could download a trail of flash and create a banner with that, but if u want a ticker, u will have to most likely use javascript Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shinta Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I once thought of using a news ticker, but I was already using my rss feed + a css style sheet for an update page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 If you're so content on using a marquee in html tho, u could try using a xhtml 1.1 transitional dtd...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is there such a thing? I thought 1.1 was only Strict... Also, I don't think marquee is valid in any way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FirefoxRocks Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 1. Marquee was never valid in HTML 2.0, HTML 3.2, HTML 4 or HTML 4.01 any flavours. It isn't going to be valid in HTML 5 either. Nor is it valid in XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 or the not-released XHTML 2.0.This is because (X)HTML is designed to structure a document, it isn't designed to make things move around on the page. Even though HTML 3.2 and HTML 4.01 Transitional contained presentational tags, the whole purpose of HTML is for structure. CSS is to be used for presentation, and it is compatible with HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 and HTML 5. Marquee isn't found in CSS because...2. Marquee is not about presentation. It's a dynamic effect. Sure you can customize the marquee using <font> or CSS, but it's the <font> and CSS that are controlling the presentation of it. Effects are to be handled using JavaScript, there are many marquee-like JavaScript code bits out there, just Google it.3. XHTML 1.1 is like XHTML 1.0 Strict, except the lang attribute is invalid and it needs to be served with an application/xhtml+xml MIME type (or application/xml). XHTML 1.1 only comes in one flavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingolme Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 1. Marquee was never valid in HTML 2.0, HTML 3.2, HTML 4 or HTML 4.01 any flavours. It isn't going to be valid in HTML 5 either. Nor is it valid in XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 or the not-released XHTML 2.0.This is because (X)HTML is designed to structure a document, it isn't designed to make things move around on the page. Even though HTML 3.2 and HTML 4.01 Transitional contained presentational tags, the whole purpose of HTML is for structure. CSS is to be used for presentation, and it is compatible with HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 and HTML 5. Marquee isn't found in CSS because...2. Marquee is not about presentation. It's a dynamic effect. Sure you can customize the marquee using <font> or CSS, but it's the <font> and CSS that are controlling the presentation of it. Effects are to be handled using JavaScript, there are many marquee-like JavaScript code bits out there, just Google it.3. XHTML 1.1 is like XHTML 1.0 Strict, except the lang attribute is invalid and it needs to be served with an application/xhtml+xml MIME type (or application/xml). XHTML 1.1 only comes in one flavour.Hey, this thread is four years old. There really was no need to answer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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