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No, it is not Open Source. I haven't yet implemented its design, I may say that idea has not yet been developed in its entirety.I think well designed and developed products (to be reproduced) are suitable for Open Source.Innovation is not a collective thing.New version of my browser is not yet fully advertised and I can tell you that I am worried about paying for the extra traffic over my limit that this version is generating. I don't want to exaggerate the situation but I think people are awaking up to new reality.

You may not be able to RSS "YouTube" contents but you can see VSS (Very Simple Syndication) in action with YouTube contents using NotJustBrowsing. Anybody using NotJustBrowsing, you can view VSS syndicated contents from YouTube.com on this page http://www.notjustbrowsing.org/poshaak_mah...op10/PopOne.htmUse Ctrl+left mouse click to view linked clip in new browser pane.

Problem with installation is rectified now (I hope). Also a variation of it (without Zero Point) can now be installed on Windows98 as well.

Real question is why there is no such thing as "session" (hence session saving)?Answer is that since there is a unique system in place (left side of the browser) to keep all the relevant links, no matter how many and the "View/History" can be brought into play for such odd situations. You only have to do one thing and that is "File/Save" at the end of your session.I may be wrong in my assumption and you may have looked at my browser. I am waiting for more questions from you then. I will review all discussion to find out why I assumed that you didn't looked at my browser or you may have looked at my browser but didn't go deep in reasoning for each functionality.

If you are talking about "See Through" maximum locations then it is configurable from 10 to 50.If there will be less than 10 links in a page fulfilling desired criteria then only those links will be automatically browsed in new browsers appearing linearly.If you are talking about "Multiple Browsing" then it is from 1 to 10 links. So you may have 1 to 10 pages (links) in one "multiple browse (Go)" request. When you will be requesting in multiples, you will be able to move forward and backward in multiples. If you see 5 links, 7 links and 3 links togather then by pressing (multiple back) will show you 7 links togather multiple back button pressing again will show you 5 links togather.It is like looking at chapter by chapter at a time instead of one page of a chapter at a time.http://www.notjustbrowsing.com/userguide/mcbar.htmhttp://www.notjustbrowsing.com/userguide/collections.htmhttp://www.notjustbrowsing.com/userguide/ht_populate.htmhttp://www.notjustbrowsing.com/userguide/bookmark.htm

I am here for your service, don't hessitate to ask.I Googled for "flowers" for images. I used "See Through" on results to view only images belonged to different domains. Dragged image locations under one "Heading" in "Study Place". I looked at the "Properties" of that "Heading" (as seen in the last picture on this page http://www.notjustbrowsing.com/userguide/browsingspace.htm) under which I placed all those url's of these pictures and set the "layout"(as shown in last picture).Once it is done, it is ready to be viewed and shared in the same format."See Throug": is a facility to browse all those links in a web page according to your criteria.(http://www.notjustbrowsing.com/userguide/see_through.htm)

Combining graphics is for demonstration purpose. Contents on one page of one site on its own have very little value now a days.We always need more than one site or page for one particular purpose. For example, when you refer to a few web page links you list them at the most. But "Multiple Browsing" concept is that you can accurately arrange web pages in an order for a user to read and to resolve his/her problem in a structured fashion.It is like if you hand in 5 books to a student and say that reading relevant portions of those books will solve your problem. Instead, it will be better for student to have all the relevant sections book marked and books be given to him/her in right order. It will save his time and effort but he might not learn anything other than he wanted to in this situation.

1. Vertical scrollbars may not be there, it is an old picture. 2. There are no contents other than those pictures, so the size of browsers, how man of them and in what layout is already defined. That is called "Multiple Browsing" that you are scared to know about. This method (Multiple Browsing) provides better usability, if you would consider to know it.3. If you download NotJustBrowsing and try to view "Computer Table" pictures, you will see them better using the same technique.Here is some detail, how it is done (http://www.notjustbrowsing.com/userguide/browsingspace.htm).

What I described is totally different from feed reader (http://www.feedreader.com/feedreaderconnect/documentation).

Are you sure you don't want to see them (http://www.notjustbrowsing.com/browsing_layout.jpg) togather? How will you compare them? Perhaps you don't believe in "group of objects".

Yes, I did design VSS without the knowledge of RSS. In fact VSS is a by-product of a desired/requested functionality, i.e., a desire to be able to take parts from different webpages and making customized page for browsing in its own.I don't know how you will fulfill this request using RSS?In my opinion, advantage of VSS over RSS is that a user is incharge of what he wants and how he wants. It is easy for information syndicator and involves no overheads. I gave a few examples of this phenomenon in my software, one of which is a piece from "The Daily Mail" newspaper's showbiz section and it is worth looking.Your arguments will be hollow if you don't know what NotJustbrowsing is providing you and how It is dealing with with "tremendous amount of information" and you will keep linking RSS with "tremendous amount of information". The way you re-reference (bookmarking in layman's term) this increased amount of information is not dealt with by any browser. Same problem of "not knowing"/"knowing only one side" is here as well. Linear/Multiple (side-by-side) view and Tabs are 180 degreess apart from each other. You may sing a song for Tabs but you can not make a Tabbed interface behave in a side-by-side (linear/multiple) fashion or vice versa.You can not compare or discuss the difference between IE7's web page's thumbnail approach with the Tailored Page until you know both.Only after knowing my browser you will be able to think, how far behind or how far apart other browsers are from NotJustBrowsing.I very much appreciate your discussion and value your effort and I am very pleased with your arguments and thankful to you. By no means, I am here to win in any argument. It will be easy for me to answer any of your questions regarding functionalities and their purpose in my browser. By now, you may have noticed that my efforts are in a different direction so the result is different too. Yes, using bookmark without any concept of book is vague. At the moment you can place 14 different categories of items in the "shelf" of NotJustBrowsing, including "Photo Album", "Audio" and of course "books". You may have mixed contents in that case you may choose to place those items under "Collection". You may have noticed a "Recycle Bin", a photo album named "Computer Table" containing pictures of a computer table in the shelf of NotJustBrowsing.Now tell me how links to differenet types of media (html, pictures, audio) are stored in anyother browser? Files & Folders information management, in short.This is essential part of the information ("tremendous amount") management structure that I am proud of producing and you are not willing to know anything about it.

If I will give a list of standards that my browser is following, it will make no difference to a user. Because no website can tell an accessor before it is accessed that it is based on X, Y, Z standards.Whereas "Zero Point" is a functionality (solution of a common problem) and "Shelf" is part of the browser's user interface. "Shelf" in my user interface acts like a shelf and not like vague words "favourite" or "bookmark" in other browsers.

User should be thankful that he/she is told which browser to use to access this page. I end-up in not seeing anything using one browser then I try another until I succeed in viewing the contents.It is a matter for website designer, they should not go for standards like I did. Standard is just a standard not a law so no compulsion. I checked my website on three different browsers to see if it looks ok on each of them.Web designers authority is not to interfere in browser's matter but to co-ordinate with browsers as much as possible. Every plant can't be grass or roses.

Of course. RSS is probably the best example, which IE7 finally supports. Opera's integrated BitTorrent client is another.I am saying in response to the "doubling of information" every 18 months part of your post. Is the handling of information changed in any of the browsers in their life time? NO. They are preserving ( bookmarking) the information in the same way since the day one. No change in their user interfaces to cope with the amount of information that a person browse through in one day.

I think we should consult some economist about this because what you are saying is that "communication industry grew for fun" and not driven by the demand. Of course communication industry is driven by demand, people wanted to and were willing to pay for high speeds for whatever purpose of theirs. World has not moved to digital communication for fun, it was demand for new services and to streamline new services there are standards.It is not that standards are drawn first and then browser follow those standards. Browser create new functionalities and later those functionalities (when accepted by public at large) are properly defined and standards are set.For example, I defined and implemented VSS (Very Simple Syndication). Will it be a standard? I don't know if it was accepted by all browsers and appreciated by users then in one way or another it will be a standard. Inventors always have vision of future, asking them if there was a public demand for their invention will be wrong. What punishment I should expect for defining VSS?In some other corner of this forum, I would like to ask someone with RSS knowledge to compare RSS with VSS.

Slow and fast, two widely used words in browsing communities. If you want to find out how much time it took to load a particular page, what will you do?Does in any way, the browser you are using provides you this feedback?

That is from my memory of 1992/93 when I was studying in Swansea. One of our juniors downloaded a poster sized photo of "Cindy Crowford" on his Macintosh and was made available for the whole department at that time. He wasted his considerable time but he was learning.

Yes of course, on dial-up connection it will take half of an hour to view a poster size photo of "Cindy Crowford". Obviously his IE7's capabilities of generation 1 will be utilized if he is using dial-up. I am sure he will not be doing anymore than e-mailing using dial-up connection.Put it this way, A person with an IBM PC-AT (40MHz, 40MB HD, Windows 3.1) using earlier browser with 14.4K modem will be equal to (for comparison only) say your father-in-law with a Pentium 4 3GHz, 1GB memory, 80GB hard drive and a 14.4K modem using IE7. Both of the above would never like to open more than one browser window/tab and both will not be worried about any standards that their browsers are compliant of.

Communication speed is the most important factor in development of standards. Demand for more, better and varied contents increased the demand for more speed of communication. It is the way how a person look at it and I looked at it from a point of view of ordinary person. An ordinary person is the one who use to have a 14.4K modem at a time and he struggled to buy a 56K US Robotics modem to enjoy world wide web. There is no doubt that you are technically 100% right in defining generation but according to the standards. The audiance of your definition are graduate students of computer science whereas I am addressing to the ordinary people.This comes down to the main difference of approach that I have adapted. I considered people (the users of www) to be incharge, important and valuable whereas the old style is closed door committes, hidden agendas of parties/companies etc. What I didn't do is that I did not write a research paper, got it published gone to a big company to supervise the implementation of the same thing in next 10 years. I decided to use intercommunication that exist between the people of the world and present my work direct to them to judge for themselves. It is an opportunity to see newest thing, accept it or reject it instead of wait for some big name to present you the same thing and you accept it. All of the functionalities in my browser are solution to wider problems, you can take those functionalities one by one and criticise them if they can be done in a better way. Denying the existance of a problem can not result in its solution. For what I am doing, I will face fierce criticism, that I know and am not scared of. You misunderstood what I said. I am talking about "communication speed benefits", i.e., taking advantage of communication speed. For example, showing two or more tv channels next to each other or showing different stock data/graphs in one place from different sources. But have you seen any change in user intaerfaces of any of currently famous browsers to handle this situation? A user can switch browser engine in Netscape 8 but you can not attach a browser with a stored link, I suppose. As a software designer of something that is changing faster, I kept the design of my browser open for all possibilities.All these standards can vanish and new things like .NET or Java may emerge. It is just a matter of will of someone with an idea to come and present some unique solution. It is a normal naturally occurring phenomenon that heavy atoms break easily. Overload www with standards and it will break with new solutions. As I described earlier, people don't know the standards, standard committees or generation of standards. If some has to figure out what first and second generation browsers were they will satisfy themselves with a similar definition then my definition.Telling people that this browser is based on any standard will confuse them more. It is a one person effort and it was wise to address 95% of compueter users who use Windows. On several occasions I tried to use Java with Mozilla's Gecko engine but it was not providing what I wanted to do with it at the time. I have written the code for NotJustBrowsing using .NET in C++ in such a manner as if it is written in Java, so conversion will be straight forward. I also designed it to be suitable for mobile devices. I don't know what will make my attention divert towards these other versions.

What you are saying is perfectly valid in the context of standards. But the fact is that 95% of the browsing community using internet explorer don't know anything beyond HTM/HTML. My definition is based on the available speed of communication at the time and the volume of information available to browse through. First generation used 2400 9600 14400 28.8 56kb/s, second generation used ISDN and third generation is using Broadband 1Mb/s onwards.Which standard is followed by which rendering engine is one aspect but are they providing communication speed benefits to their users? Are browsers more capable of managing available information? How much information we are managing as compare to 10 years ago?If I am using IE rendering engine it means I am following standards that IE is following PLUS I have built-in advantage (in design) of communication speed as well as management of information.Now that we are into this discussion, I should let you know that I have built in capability of viewing every single page with your chosen browser (when available). As soon as I will add any browser engine component into my code, it will be ready to be chosen for any particular page. And all this is due to the fact that my browser is designed to keep these things in mind.Will this not sort out many of browsing standard problems? Creator of web page will only have to write which browsing engine this page is suitable for (or a user can select most suitable from a list) and I will display the page using that engine.Rendering engines can not be developed faster than the change/modification in standards and at the same time can not be made into a standard one solution in this diverse field of information presentation. This does not mean that we should stop looking for solutions to other problems surrounding information handling within browsing structures (browsers).People in Mozilla and Opera don't laugh at me they are keeping a good eye on my efforts. The whole point of watching side-by-side is to be able to view TV channels side-by-side along with other things that are suitable for viewing only side-by-side. communication speeds are reaching 8Mbits/s and TV is integrating into browsing life, is it not appropriate time to look for a side-by-side solution?

I have never been in such a good company before. Nobody explained this much about generations of browsers so I have the opportunity to let people know what my "third generation" actually means.In first generation, browsers were capable of displaying text and may be images. In second generation, browsers started dealing with multimedia.In third generation, rendering engine is only one part coupled with standards. Managing amount of information at our disposal is the main area that I consider to be the essential in third generation. Actually I am developing it to complete my vision of third generation. Generation gap will be clearly visible when it is completely implemented.

Thank you for your comments and taking time to look into NotJustBrowsing website.About my first post: I thought I should introduce myself first and say hello to everyone and then move to relevant section to tell about other things. I must say, people in this forum are very active and I hardly got the chance now to move to this proper place.One thing for sure, you are right about most of the things that you felt. Website is bound to be unprofessional because it is the only website that I created, needless to say that I am not professional in this area.I don't know where those bright colours are, to be honest. I think you may have seen contrasting rectangles surrounding particular elements in the browser, drawn (in picture) to emphasize the area under discussion. Particularly in this version there are ten light shades (for skin) to choose from and the rest of the colour scheme is also configurable.The main thing is that this browser present solutions to some of the problems related to current generation of browsers. Those people not suffering from any of these problems in their daily browsing routines, it has hardly anything for them.

I am not in this forum to advertise or publicise my browser "NotJustBrowsing". During a routine search I found this site and found that possibly six thousand or so members of this forum don't know about NotJustBrowsing.To avoid discussion in "Introduction" area, I am starting to respond from this area Yes, I am aware of problems in this area1. People don't like to see a message telling them to install .Net Framework2. Zero Point builder utility run on WindowsXP/NT and not on Windows98. Since this utililty run at the end of installation of NotJustBrowsing it fails on Windows98 and on some WindowsXPs.Zero Point Builder utility creates "short cuts" and its code is Win32 based and not .NET based.I am working on this issue.

I can only improve website for your liking if I know what made you dislike it. Is it your personal feeling or a technical issue with the website?

This area is for people to introduce themselves. You may say here that I look horrible.We should talk about "how horrible?" in some other section, I assume.