Angelica Perduta
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Thank, yes, I did actually use iframes, but it's currently just a reimplementation of the deprecated frameset that I learned about 10 years ago. I just made a Youtube of my user experience of how other sites work. I'm trying to get some ideas for how I really want it to operate and haven't got round to understanding ajax at all. I feel php is horribly complicated and will be hard to maintain and debug. Currently my plan is to make tabs down the left margin that then pop up a menu over the top of the current document rather than resizing things.
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Thanks for your demonstration how to do this layout without using iframes. I can certainly see it gives the same appearance, just using <div> containers with appropriate styles,. However I use iframes because I want to display independent documents. e.g. - to maintain only a single site navigation menu - to have links that load alternative combinations of main text and example - to share the common javascript without having to reload it for each page on the site Without iframes, don't I end up having to duplicate the menu on every page? Do I have to make a page for every combination of text and sample? How can I transfer common scripts and variables when loading a different page? These are the things that I solved using frameset back when I was learning html in 20th century. An awful lot has changed since then and IDK how it is done these days.
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I did a Youtube lasting 28 seconds to show Fire-Fox behavior on your site. <--- click that link to see it I hope it helps
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Thanks davej and lovespells too. The fixed width and max-width do seem to be the most common approach and I experimented with multi-column too. lovespells website is very attractive but there is a lot of wasted screen area which doesn't help when trying to present more verbose technical documents that I have in mind. For that the reason I have left navigation frame in: to use the wasted space on the side rather than force the user to scroll back to the top to find the menu.
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They are iframe substitute for frameset. I haven't done much web design for many years and there is an awful lot to (re) learn (struggling understanding jQuery at the moment). I am trying to get some ideas for site navigation specifically to present turorials, documentation and structured educational and academic reference material. (i.e. lots of technical text). In practical use I find the tree structure of the Blender 3D manual very helpful. I know it's not pretty, but it is very useable when you just want to learn something. I'm going to have to spend some more time visiting websites and see how others do it.
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Thanks harpalsinh999. I did try try this... In the image below I have one window using javascript and it always looks nice but it seems silly I have to use script just to get my frame to fit in the window. The second window is what you suggest, but alas it only looks right when the window happens to match width and height and a lot depends on user zoom setting too. The 3rd one I specified both width and height as 100% and my frame is ALWAYS too big. Setting a lower percentage I end up too big for small windows and too small for big windows... CSS needs to address the issue of percentages and pixels somehow... like 100% - 17px perhaps?
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Consistently on Internet Explorer, Google Chrome and FireFox specifying a height of 100% is too big for the window and I have to subtract 17 pixels. To see what I want try resizing window on my example here. Just wondering if there isn't a standard way in CSS without needing a script.? <!doctype html><html lang="en" style="height:100%; overflow:hidden"><!-- Note: FireFox html5 needs to be told to use the whole window --><head> <meta charset="utf-8" /> <title>iframe height</title> <script src="../jquery-2.0.3.js"></script> <script> $(function() { var $myframe = $("#myframe"); function mainresize() { $myframe.height(window.innerHeight - 17); } $(window).resize(mainresize); mainresize(); }); </script></head><body style="height:100%"> <iframe id="myframe" src="ipsum-lorem.html" style="width:100%"></iframe></body></html>
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I use the standard Windows 8 Windows Defender and I thought protects me... but obviously not because a full scan just showed Wpalill.C has been on my system since January (in a .zip file) and AddLyrics since May (in my internet temporary folder) even though I told Windows to delete internet temporary files many times since. Personally I've thought Microsoft have always been utterly clueless about the very basic principles of computer security as I explain in my Youtube, but Linux and Macs are just as bad.
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Yes that is correct. I am not a hip hop fan myself and just interested in learning basic principles and different ideas about web design at the moment. So you mean originally there would have been things to look at over on the right then? I'm still a bit baffled about having a "click to enter" screen. I mean in a real live website mostly we would get to some internal page directly via a Google would we not?
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OMG... thanks for telling me. I never got that warning yet! I have just noticed my downloads page is not working at all even though the very same links work fine from youtube. IDK what is going on these days. To me it seems the industry is shoving individuals off the internet completely :'(
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People are telling me they get bugs on my site http://piedpiper.site40.net/index.html?sample=voter/poll_test.html and I can't reproduce them. I suspect it may be browser incompatabilities with jQuery and I wonder if other people see them as well. If you have a spare moment please vote on my opinion poll there... but if that doesn't work either then please let me know what happened. Thanks in advance )
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TBH I looked at them both as local files on my computer using firefox. I can't see the difference. Did your site go on line? What does it look like these days?
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I like the home page. That big photo of the dogs looking at me full of expectation on the doorstep is enough to make me pause and read the description. Visually I feel you need to equalize the height of the collums there but that's just a petty detail. My subjective opinion is you need LESS clutter on that entry screen: People who wanna join will click "sign in" and then get a chance to create a new account... I would delete the "pet parade" link and just have an arrow on the dog picture to start the slide show right there on the front page... while we read the description. I would take out the "members" link the way to find them is via their posts in the forums and they might not even want to be in the lime light. Place a "coming soon" or "events" link in a prominent place on that home page and also a "now selling/wanted" market place link. Make it sound like it's happening and we the visitors must seize the opportunity b4 it is too late! Note: If there are none... then it takes you straight to the page to advertise an event... but showing people that there is (potential for) activity will bring them back and make them want to be part of it. Well that's my first impressions and I think you have done a good job. I don't even have a pet myself, so I'm not really qualified to say what petowners might like ;o)
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I just popped in and immediately jumped to conclusion must be a pop group sharing their performances with their fans. No doubt it is expected that the visitors are fans who are there intentionally for some freebies, to know where your next gig is, or maybe even to buy something?! My first impression is that you need pictures of the stars & recent video and maybe a sount track we can play while readings the home page. The About Us section wants to talk about "we" in the first person, not "them" 3rd person IMO. I see no advantage to having a "click to enter screen" or half the page just this green and grey logo nothing and would much rather see photos of their latest gig so I could think ... I don't want to miss the next one!
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I use: <script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1/jquery.min.js"></script> <script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jqueryui/1/jquery-ui.min.js"></script> I was told only to specify the main version number (1 in this case) and it will pick the latest version 1. By convention is guaranteed to be backward compatible with any earlier version 1's only with extra features and bug fixes. If you do go up to version 2 however then you may find some things don't work the same and in particular I think they are dropping support for Internet explorer pre version 9 to make it more efficient. Note: as far as I'm concerned they can drop support for internet explorer... full stop - but that's a different matter ;o) p.s. The important reason for using the Google hosted version is that it is probably already cached and so saves time. However if you use a different URL then you do not get that benefit and so I'm advocating we identify which one is the right one to use!
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Long text lines are when you maximize your window and the parapraph width could be well over 150 characters! When I was learning to read I used need my finger to keep track of what line I was on and I still find it hard when reading on screen. Regarding scroll bars, many cases my web browsers puts them in for no real reason, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8g6v3_ADY On my website http://piedpiper.site40.net/ (mentioned in my first post) FireFox, Chrome and IE all add a nonsensical horizontal scroll bar to my navigation frame and I have no idea why yet. I do like drop down menus. There was a nice example on a web site about buying gold, presented on this forum. I have not yet experimented with them: My concern is for when a page has substantial writing and thus make the reader scroll all the way back to your menu bar. They lose their place in the page they are reading. Also I want it to be consistent on multiple pages without having to update each and every one when I add to my site... This naturally lead me to iframes but hopefully I can learn new techniques by taking part in this forum
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The concepts you made show some appealing art work, but your own pages seem very bland. Is that inspired by the Windows 'metro style' (or whatever it is called now)? I do like the idea of plain graphics as we get overload these days, none the less I personally do like to see some warmer colors on the screen (specially as it is spring time here). It wasn't clear if you can do that kind of art, or just lay out the pages, so I think I understand what niche means: It doesn't shout "pick me" to potential clients. p.s. I liked your "back to the top" button, but it seemed quite far off to the side and when I didn't use full screen it was not even in the window. You need to have a go zooming in and out and see how its position is affected.
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Nice clean display without clutter and easy to use. I haven't really looked into SEO yet so I learnt a lot from visiting. In particular I always used to prefer underscores to hyphens because on my own computer the hyphens get confused with subtract operators or command line options. Spaces in names create other problems and cammel case causes confusion on Linux machines that are have case sensitive file and floder names, (while they also don't help the search engine in the slightest). I particiularly like the way you do the SEO articles menu on the right, so that they only appear when there is space for them.
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The colors go well together and it looks very attractive. I tried it at different resolutions and could zoom in with the mouse wheel on any part making it accessible to people with poor eye sight. The drop down menus are intuitive amd work well for navigating the site. I suspect your client will be impressed... and I hope you can come back and tell us what their reaction was.
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It looks very appealing and the pages are not too busy. I did notice that when I mouse over "Contact", then the word "Us" appears in the middle of the lines below. (That's with FireFox BTW). I suspect it is buglet? I am at the moment trying to learn about how web pages scale to different screen resolutions and was wondering if having a fixed size page layout like this is the way to go, because evidently I can just zoom in and out with the mouse wheel to make it fit. Imagining someone with poor eye sight I tried zooming in to get big letters, but then it won't let me scroll sideways.
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@davej - You are far from alone in that ;o) I agree that frames are bad karma, especially for marketing. However, when I'm exploring technical information, I really do want some kind of index to hand + a separate area for examples to play with. Originally I used a pop up window for my navigation but that's not good either, especially because if you enable them then my free web host will pop up annoying adverts. :^/ My aim is to load a different index depending what chapter/topic the viewer has selected. I notice pages like the jQuery API documentation has a nice menu on the left, but I also like the ability to shove it out of the way and make more space for images and samples when I need it. Anyway... this was really more about the fact my reading tends to drift across lines of text when they get too long and so I need to find a way to limit their length. Exploring these things gives me incentive to learn new techniques.
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Recently I started exploring modern web technology and have been wondering about how to avoid getting long lines of text that become hard to scan. I made a demo with some ideas and would apreciate if anyone wants to coment. http://piedpiper.site40.net/index.html?text=/design_website/web_design.html#visual (Note: currently you have to resize the frame to get the multi column to do it's thing and IDK why it wont take you straight to the #visual label yet... but if I wait until I understand it all then I suspect I'll never get anywhere at all ;o)
