ben3001

im guessing what you mean is when you sell your items...they allow you to use your own html so i suppose you can use css

Well said.So remember: Take care of yourselves-and each other

thats exactly my point. a designer spends all there time designing a site only for the user to view it how they wants, in my opinion thats not right

well i think im happy with the outcome of this site when viewed without the stylesheethttp://medussa3.atspace.com/

and thats the point that i throughly agree with!!

Point 1.This would not be for your privelage of using that site but for other users for example the visually impaired. There are style sheets which would allow them to see things exactly how they want on sites. I.e bigger fonts and the correct font colour and background colour. Point 2.I agree with. This point is for my site specfically, its not the biggest club in the world nor is it the popular. Its a little local club, I can garuntee that no one will be viewing this on any hand held advice of any kind.

wo wo wo wo woooohey people i didnt mean to start a war... ill respond to one point i can particullary answer the point i making is not to design the whole site without using style sheets.Here is my example: http://medussa3.atspace.comAs you can see the site has been designed with tables, HOWEVER, the styles are being loaded from an external style sheet, everything from the font to the tables border colour.the point im trying to make is that, say someone did disable stylesheets or used there own. The layout will still be the same no matter what style sheet you use for the reason that the site is made in tables and will always have that default layout. Now for example if i created divs and had their properties inside the style sheet and someone used there own one, my site would look completly different. I dont mind if they use there own background colour, font, or text colour, as long as there viewing the site how i would prefer it viewed.I think you must agree that i have a fair point here

WOW numbertwo its not like your asking someone to help you with a small site or a easy form script your asking someone to write a programme, its not asking much is it??????

hmm in my opinion i think its pretty pointless in having this function, simply becuase on firefox you can right click view page info and then click media, and all your images on the page are displayed.then scroll through the images and click save as.

i definately agree with you there. a page should not consist of just tables, the basic design can be the tables, but the css used for the theme/style of the page.i know its not very often but i remember reading somewhere you can disable style sheets. just say someone did disable viewing style sheets in there browser, your site would not look the same.however if the sites frame work was bulit up via tables your site would always look how you want it no matter what style sheet you use.

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0916.htm

if i had to vote it would be flash ive be learning it pretty slowly but i think im covering the basucs quite well...im not to sure about svg so i cant really comment much but in my opinion i find flash very flexible to use

that reminds me scott did you get the last pm i sent you :?

the main reason why i brought up this topic is because one it make great viewing no just kiddening...the thing is i have been haveing a wee problem with my divs and found that i could not get around it.i admit you have all made very valid points, my problem is that i want to keepy my divs that im using but am finidng it hard to keep them centered, its easier with tables but not what i want maybe some one could help/advise.my site is http://medussa2.atspace.com/test2.htmlmy header is perfectly centered no matter what your resoluotion, but i cannot get the other 3 divs centered for the love of my love, i have no idea what im doing wrongcould you help with the soloution if css this would be highly apprecited

it seems that when i wrapped it all in a div it actually had no effect at all so im unsure of what im doing wrong

and the question you are asking is?

boen that script didnt work for some reason here is moy source code html <head><title> Medussa NightClub Brixton </title><script>function hideLeft(){ document.getElementById('l1').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('l2').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('l3').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('l4').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('l5').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('l6').style.display='none';}function hideRight(){ document.getElementById('r1').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('r2').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('r3').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('r4').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('r5').style.display='none'; document.getElementById('r6').style.display='none';}function toggleMenu(objectID) { var object = document.getElementById(objectID); if (object.style.display =='block') object.style.display='none'; else object.style.display='block'; return;}</script><link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="oldstyle.css" /><link rel="alternate stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" title="blue-theme" href="blue.css" /><link rel="alternate stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" title="red-theme" href="style6.css" /><link rel="alternate stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" title="brown-theme" href="orange.css" /><style>#l1, #l2, #l3, #l4, #l5, #l6{ display: none}#r1, #r2, #r3, #r4, #r5, #r6{ display: none}body { background-color: #1F1F1F;}.style1 {color: #0066FF}.style2 {color: #0000FF}</style><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><script src="styleswitch.js" type="text/javascript"></script></head><body onLoad="document.getElementById('l1').style.display='block';document.getElementById('r1').style.display='block'"><div class="lmr"><center> <table class="table" width="50%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" ><tr><td align="middle"> <div align="center"><a href="links/home.htm" target="main"><img src="images/header.jpg" width="748" height="69" border="0" /></a> <a href="links/home.htm" target="main">Home</a> | <a href="links/news.htm" target="main">News</a> | <a href="links/calendar.htm" target="main">Calendar</a> | <a href="links/photos.htm" target="main">Photos</a> | <a href="links/about.htm" target="main">About</a> | <a href="http://ernestbevin.contentman.co.uk/docs/contact2.php" target="main">Contact</a> | <a href="links/guestbook.htm" target="main">Guest book</a> | <a href="links/howto.htm" target="main">How to find us</a> | <a href="http://ernestbevin.contentman.co.uk/docs/form3.php" target="main">Book Online</a> | <a href="http://ernestbevin.contentman.co.uk/docs/advertise.php" target="main">Advertise</a></div></td></tr></table></center><br /><div class="left"><b>Night Club Events<b><br /><br />Information</b><br /><br /><span id="l1">Page 1 <br /><br />You will notice there are more pages of information if you click the next button</span><span id="l2">Page 2 <br /><br />This is page 2. If you click next you will see the 3rd page</span> <span id="l3">Page 3<br /><br />This is finally Page 3.</span><span id="l4">Page 4<br /><br />This is page 4.</span><span id="l5">Page 5<br /><br />This is page 5.</span><span id="l6">Page 6<br /><br />This is page 6.</span><br /><br /><span style="position:absolute;top:330px;left:35px"><br />Pages<br /><a href="java script:hideLeft();toggleMenu('l1')">1</a> <a href="java script:hideLeft();toggleMenu('l2')">2</a> <a href="java script:hideLeft();toggleMenu('l3')">3</a><a href="java script:hideLeft();toggleMenu('l4')">4</a><a href="java script:hideLeft();toggleMenu('l5')">5</a><a href="java script:hideLeft();toggleMenu('l6')">6</a></span></div> <div class="theme"> <p><br /> Choose Your Theme: <a href="java script:chooseStyle('red-theme', 60)"></a> <a href="java script:chooseStyle('red-theme', 60)"></a><a href="java script:chooseStyle('none', 60)" checked="checked"></a> <a href="java script:chooseStyle('none', 60)"><img src="images/green2.gif" alt="Green" width="20" height="15" border="0"></a><span class="style2"></span> <a href="java script:chooseStyle('brown-theme', 60)"><img src="images/orange1.gif" alt="Orange" width="20" height="15" border="0"></a> <a href="java script:chooseStyle('blue-theme', 60)"><img src="images/blue.gif" alt="Blue" width="20" height="15" border="0"></a> <a href="java script:chooseStyle('red-theme', 60)"><img src="images/red.gif" alt="Red" width="20" height="15" border="0"></a></span><br /></p></div><div class="middle"> <p><br /> </p> <br /><iframe src="links/home.htm" name="main" frameborder="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="10" scrolling="no" width="560" height="405"></iframe><br /></div><div class="right"><b>Community Events</b><br /><br />Information<br /><span id="r1">Nightclub 1 <br /><br />Here you can have information about the nightclub</span><span id="r2">Page 2 <br /><br />Hello page 2</span> <span id="r3">Page 3<br /><br />Finally this is the third page yaaaaassssss!!!</span><span id="r4">Page 4<br /><br />page 4</span><span id="r5">Page 5<br /><br />page 5</span><span id="r6">Page 6<br /><br />page 6</span><br /><br /><span style="position:absolute;top:330px;left:35px"><br />Pages<br /><a href="java script:hideRight();toggleMenu('r1')">1</a> <a href="java script:hideRight();toggleMenu('r2')">2</a> <a href="java script:hideRight();toggleMenu('r3')">3</a><a href="java script:hideRight();toggleMenu('r4')">4</a><a href="java script:hideRight();toggleMenu('r5')">5</a><a href="java script:hideRight();toggleMenu('r6')">6</a></span></div><div></body> here is my css a:link { color: #A2D800; text-decoration:none; font-family: verdana; font-size: 10px;}a:visited {color: #8EA707;font: bold 10px verdana;text-decoration:none;}a:hover {color: #E2FF8A;font: bold 10px verdana;text-decoration:underline;}a:active {color: #F0F0F0;font: bold 10px verdana;text-decoration:underline;}body{scrollbar-face-color:#A2D800;scrollbar-arrow-color:#000000;scrollbar-track-color:#333333;scrollbar-shadow-color:#000000;scrollbar-highlight-color:#NNNNNN;scrollbar-3dlight-color:#NNNNNN;scrollbar-darkshadow-Color:#NNNNNN;}body,a {font: bold 10px verdana; color:#ffffff;}body {background-color: #1F1F1F;}h1 { font: bold 20px verdana; color:#ffffff;}.lmr{ text-align: center; margin: 0 auto; text-align: left;}.left{ position:absolute; left:50px; text-align: center; width:130px; background-image: url(images/top4.png); background-repeat: repeat-x; border-style: solid; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px; border-color:#A2D800; height: 405px; top: 145px;}.right{ position:absolute; left:811px; text-align: center; width:130px; background-image: url(images/top4.png); background-repeat: repeat-x; border-style: solid; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px; border-color:#A2D800; height: 405px; top: 145px;}.middle{ position:absolute; left:210px; width:570px; height:450px; background-image: url(images/top4.png); background-repeat: repeat-x; overflow:auto; border-style: solid; border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px; border-color:#A2D800; padding:2px; top: 145px;}.theme{ position:relative; left:50%; width:30%; top:-2%; height:10%; text-align: center;}.top{ text-align: right; left:100px; width:900px; top: 140px; }.table{padding-bottom:3px;border-style: solid;border-width: 6px 1px 1px 1px;border-color:#A2D800;} as you can see i tired wrapping it all in a div and it still didnt work im puzzled. im sure there is a soloution to this but im to stupid to see it.also i gave the wrong link i fixed that error with the information showing up on the leftEDIT: aspnetguy: Please use CODEBOX for long pieces of code.

Hi peoplemy screen has been made in resolution in 1024 X 768. On my screen my site is viewing central, but im haivng a view complications whether or not my site is viewing central on screen resoluotions bigger then mine.It would really be apprecited if people could tell me how my site is viewing and possibly give a screen shot of it.If this is the case would anyone have any solutions in centering the site with the divs i have.cheersB

also when you upload your files sometimes you have to force the refresh by actually pressing F5 and not the refresh button at the top. i useually have that problem and it works for me

i have no problem with the header as that is always centered no matter what resolution your viewing at. im happy with that. the div on the left is perfect. but the middle divd and right is now.

I've have recently been browsing a few forums and have noticed people absoloutly hate using tables. If someone uses tables for the layout people do not review the site but the fact that tables ahve been used instead of css.Whats the difference?A site coded via css loads in the same time as a site coded via css. If not quicker due to the fact it does not have to load large style sheets which some people end up creating in css."There is no "real-life" or practical benefits when you start to replace each-and-every-single <table> tag with <DIV> tags and attempt to use full CSS to display your webpages properly across popular browsers. It's one thing to use the regular CSS style to replace the same fonts that will be used all over the place. But it's another when you take little bits and pieces of code out of the page and bury it some huge .css file and then try to figure out and try to remember where they all came from and what each piece of code did 2 months from now"I would love to know what people think, but im already sure of the responses i will recieve. Vote in the poll!

the easiest way to do what you want is make the site in flash then, or parts of it. Flash mx 2006 has prebuilt in components that you can use with fully customizable scrollbars

ok ive kind of got the site centered but the postioning now is that each div appears below each other, ie in a diagnol positioning first the right div then below that at the corner appears the middle div and then below tht appears the right div at the corner heres the css a:link {color: #A2D800;text-decoration:none;font-family: verdana;font-size: 10px;}a:visited {color: #8EA707;font: bold 10px verdana;text-decoration:none;}a:hover {color: #E2FF8A;font: bold 10px verdana;text-decoration:underline;}a:active {color: #F0F0F0;font: bold 10px verdana;text-decoration:underline;}body{scrollbar-face-color:#A2D800;scrollbar-arrow-color:#000000;scrollbar-track-color:#333333;scrollbar-shadow-color:#000000;scrollbar-highlight-color:#NNNNNN;scrollbar-3dlight-color:#NNNNNN;scrollbar-darkshadow-Color:#NNNNNN;}body,a {font: bold 10px verdana; color:#ffffff;}body {background-color: #1F1F1F;}h1 { font: bold 20px verdana; color:#ffffff;}.left{position:relative;left:4%;text-align: center;width:130px;background-image: url(images/top4.png);background-repeat: repeat-x;border-style: solid;border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px;border-color:#A2D800;height: 72%;top: 0%;}.right{position:relative;left:84%;text-align: center;width:130px;background-image: url(images/top4.png);background-repeat: repeat-x;border-style: solid;border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px;border-color:#A2D800;height: 72%;top: 0%;}.middle{position:relative;left:20%;width:570px;background-image: url(images/top4.png);background-repeat: repeat-x;overflow:auto;border-style: solid;border-width: 0px 1px 1px 1px;border-color:#A2D800;padding:2px;top:5%;}.top{text-align: right;left:100px;width:900px;top: 140px;}.table{padding-bottom:3px;border-style: solid;border-width: 6px 1px 1px 1px;border-color:#A2D800;}

yea i mean my site, for example my site has to be maximized for it to appear in the center, im sure there is css that would allow me to accomplish this.reason being if i resized the browser window, half the content would be missing, i would want is so that the content always appear in the center, no matter what the resolution isim viewing my site at 1024*768 and some people have been viewing the site at a much higher resolution, i would like it if it always appears central

hey peoplealot of people keep saying your site is not centered with the headers and i really dont know how i would acheive itcould somebody please assit memy site ishttp://medussa2.atspace.commuch appreciatedBen