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Thank you very much, you have been tremendous help and inspiration!I have great beliefs in this, think about it carrying your own shop in your pocket. People goes like, well what is this shop all about? what do you have? Then I say, you got a phone, see and browse there! You can even order Mecha toys and T-shirts.It is great, and so future!hehe, hopefully I will manage to pull something through. And I want to stay true, and legal, and NO JAMBA crap!Until next time...Have a good timeI´ll post up when I have the urges, for now I have enough to lay my hands on:-)PS. First initial WAP- test was successful, it is up! Have to polish the designs and stack it full of megabytes.

Very good..!SSL encryption it is! I intend to have two different sectors of products. One with SMS pay, that is nonlogin service, your mobile account will be drained if you have money enough there. - - -By the way, I don't get it.... how can you possibly organize a payment that would not requre a computer at all?Well, here in this local area, there are services that drain your account with one click, When you "fill" you account with ringingminutes for like 20$, /you can buy this refill in shops - and by calling the number on the card you phones ring- minutes gets recharged) you can ring someone at a network-charge of let´s say 0,1$ per minute, when your account is dry, you cannot call anymore, just recieve calls, as long as you have battery.This is the account I want to use, and it IS being used for this purpose, I can tell! When it comes to so called "HOT" downloads like Images and ringtones and mp3´s. This is the way to go. No login and full creditcard for smalltime downloads. When Upload is the case a login is required.However I want to experiment with a larger concept I have been playing with for some time now, that is providing product line of toys, like Mechas and "wierd" robot stuff. Under the banner, Only available on the WAP!I cant afford to put up a complete shop, so I figure I start there. This one will require a complete login and credicard, SSL secure on the basic internet site, called www.LazerGallery.com. Here I will pick out just a small, small number of ultra good looking mechas or sci-fi toys and sell them on the wap exclusive, to test the market. For kids and collectors. I will order them from wherever and store them in Norway, for fast delivery. Considered a small investment.A combinatoin of both, methods is fevorable. What is so nonsecure about downloading an image for 4 cents that drain your SIM/SMS- account? what can happen? Of course it can be implemented with a SSL encryption on all products, but then it stalls the flow, and I can not allow it! I understand that if you buy a product over WAP that cost like 1000$ with no security, I too would back off and worriy. But this is 4 cents, not even a dollar, and no mention of creditcard numbers or personal information at all. You cant be bluffed, as long as I get the money and the user gets his ringtone. If he doesnt, we have a probleme. But it is easily fixed, when you have the phone number and can call them back. or send him a message saying, hey man sorry an error occured, keep your phone turned on and we will send you the product as fast as our internal struggles are done... (..that is like FAST, 12 hours max)If I announce a product in the range of 1000 $ it will have to be secure, I totally agree:-) And so it will be. But I think it is a waste of recorces to force all lowpriced products into the login credicard zone, when there is easier methods.As you probably notice I just throw alot of ideas around, but they are not fictionate. I have encounterd working versions of what I am talking about. Question is HOW..? And how large a workforce will it require.- - - If users get sticked by security issues, they won't give you a second chance.I know, cant be allowed, all customers must be happy.I guess I have to pick up the phone and just call the local networks 2 large over here called Telenor and NetCom. They should know how to proceed.:-) Hey man.. WAP can happen!Greetings

I dont code very much myself. Havent got tha skills, but I know others like it:-)To solve the sms payment probleme, easy... I just make one system for each country that is under scoop. Norway first and Malaysia tomorrow.Thank you very much for the information you have been a great help!best regards fromCrazy businessman:-)PS, if security and hacking(?) becomes a huge issue at the discussion table, it will be implemented, of course. But didnt it hit my ear that all "internet" services should be based on XHTML, and what prohibits the global trend, using SMS SIM card payment, then?So called trend-analysts predict a parallell use of creditcards and SIM cards??I have read on Wiki that there are 4 different "camps" of coding (?) UMTS (W-CDMA), CDMA 2000, TD-SCDMA, Wideband CDMA and UMTS TDD. I count 5. But hello, one just make versions on each net if neccesary.yepyep, dont know what to say anymore.goodbye!

I like your style!oki. Norway has a reputation of being an oil rich nation and prices kind of follow the stock, you know. Kids are kind of rich around town because they get fed by their BMW crazy parents!I have no intention on following those market prices. Im going cheap, but not free.I understand your system by logging on a web server with secure login and stuff like that, the case is that it is a "workaround", have encountered it once and hopfully never again. This method will only partly work, as a mainstream feature. The magic runs out if the concept by being in need of an external computer. Does it come with the purchase of the phone? I dont think so. And hey: why would you want to have a mobile, if you had a laptop with infinite satellite coverage? Nay, it has to be done with - one unit and one click = result!I basically want to avoid login altoghether, to include a larger number of users. Why do I want to know who downloads what? I already know what is on the server. However, on the conterary - to upload art, it is fair to require a login request. To have some kind of control, and hence exclude users from uploading distasteful or illegal arts or licenses. - - - About SIM chargeI have seen that it can be arranged otherwise. Like CHARGING your SIM-card. That is most the suitable for HOT use.Like sitting on a bus or waiting for a late lover. Forget credit cards and user logins that take half an hour (...lame). SIM-card payment is a reliable paying unit in the future, or so the geeks at cnn´s 3G report says. Mobile phones sim card will work in parallell to creditcards. However there is another way, a third way of charging via wap.1. Charging per download unit, Software studio gets paid2. Charging for using the network, Main operator account gets paid3. Allowing a small "drain account". Similar the main operator fee, but it feeds the software account. Actually I dont care if the Xhtml is "secure" or not, as long as the money is going the right way.Nobody uses the 3G or wap features either here or in Japan or in Malaysia. Why, I asked an Tele-operator this very day, and he, just like you, LAUGHED!it is too expensive, and not considered cool. It is just offbeat..But just wait till you see the stuff man...

Thank you very much, when I come to think of it The WARNING on every product emerges to mind:-)I am definetly going in on commercial opproach. The poeple want pictures they can recognize, and I do not have the time or bother to make origional 5000 images on the machine even though I am a talented guy. There will too be a user upload thingy to include users, of course. And competitions. yey, win prizes.Persentage share (royalties) is the way to go. I am located in Norway and image and ringtones and games are priced way up in the sky, like 50 NOK (=7$) that is ONE wap image, it is self spoken that there is money in the business!If Mr.Lucas gets 10% I guess he´ll be satisfied. Wap is global too right:-)I have hired a coder to do the decks and cards. Hope he figures it out!hmm, Will it be difficoult for my coder to put "pay" - function on the wap site?I think I am going free for the first moths or year. then contact every president in the world for royaltie licences, they want to make money right:-)can I use a regular Internet domain for hooking up the wap service??what is the differance on mobile nets and laptop wireless, or "cable nets". Does ordinary web domains hook up on mobile satellites??Thanks very much in advance:-)

yep all ye codersI have newely opened my eyes for the ultracool WAP services, and I think it is greatly undervalued.My inquiry implies issues relating to a complete business idea including features like mp3´s, ringtones, images and movies exclusive for the mobile phone.1st Q up is legal issues, I intend to rip a whole lot of images, animations and mp3 on the net, Things like She-Hulk imgs, SinCity slideshows (homemade) gif from jpgs. and so on. Even a playlist in MP3 that might include Jefferson Airplane, Hawkwind and some fat techno, like FSOL:-)What is the case, must I really make EVERYTHING myself to keep it legal? I dont wanna be sued, but, man. You cant expect me to write 1000 emails to every producer asking for an expensive licence. I mean like 1000 $ for upping Chewbakka on a mobile is just rediculous. And anyhow, whos gonna know??I figure if the site is free, it will all be well, but I wanna make money! seeWhat do I do? What is done in similar cases.