This is a very interesting thread - a lot more calm than the old days when I used to browse usenet.I'm probably a little too old for the group but my first browser was Mosaic. It worked but we didn't know what this "www" thing was. When Netscape showed up it was world wide web heaven. But somewhere along the way Netscape really took a dive - and while it is fashionable to blame IE for that, it wasn't just marketshare. Netscape got bad - buggy and hard to use. Once IE won the war, the internet stock bubble crashed and some saner heads prevailed Netscape still went all screwy on me and tried to build an entire OS into a browser.I get the standards issue - but since when has MS played nice with others? I was forced to install and test with FireFox late last year because we have customers using FireFox and we have some web-based features in our products. We had to make some changes (we've been supporting IE and Netscape for years) to support FireFox correctly but we did it. When IE7 hits the mainstream and the next versions of Netscape and FireFox come out we'll probably have to make more changes. That's the nature of our business and as the world continues to move forward this is getting harder, not easier to keep up with.But more specifically again with the browsers - while I appreciated tabbed browsing in FireFox I had to switch back to IE. Too many pages that I visit did not work with FireFox. I had so many error messages pop up and pages fail with FF that I couldn't stand it. So the answer, you say, is FF is extendable and can be made to work with anything. True - but I have absolutely no control over my PC at work. It is locked down. I can't add things to it, I can't install things, I can't configure things. This is typical of a corporate work environment. IE works for *me* out of the box, FF does not. Winner - IE. I don't need to see my email, the weather, listen to music. I need the web pages to view correctly, I've got Outlook, Media Player and a window in the hall for those other items I agree you aren't going to move MS by complaining about IE. What will move MS on IE is for all the major players to start prefering FF or something else. Any ideas on the chances of that happening? I'm done rambling - thanks for the board - it's A Good Thing