scott, this is interesting as it doesnt work unless the "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>" is addedmy document started out as:<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"><%response.Charset="utf-8"%><html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">any thoughts as to why?