Yea I know, about the numbers; that was just for example. Anyway, the list is a ul, but when I nest the sub menu inside a li, it doesn't display properly. Edit: Another issue I'm having is that when I nest it inside the li, it leaves a blank space for the menu, and if I hover over that blank space it shows, unless I set it to display:none, but if I do that, then the fade-in transition doesn't work.