OK - thanks for that, will start learning ASP. Have looked through the first few pages and tried the example given at #include but can't get it to work.I put the three files mypage.asp, wisdom.inc and time.inc up into the test area of my web hoster. Accessed the mypage file via IE but the include didn't work. As the script has to run server side, should I be putting the files in a particular place? Or won't I be able to use asp because I don't have my own server (I just have a hosting package)?