Forum Access

[iwato]

BACKGROUND: For the past several weeks I have had enormous difficulty participating in the W3Schools forums. After trying to understand the problem through mistaken settings in my firewall or a reluctant ISP, I stumbled upon the error log for my browser and came up with the following three sets of unexplained questions.Up until fairly recently I have felt very welcome in this forum. Certainly my posts have been some of the most read. Only once have I posed a question that I was eventually force to abandon due to inadequate information. Perhaps someone could shed some light on these matters, so that I am not compelled to move to a new forum. QUESTION ONE: Why do I receive the following two warning and error messages in my browser log when accessing the W3Schools forum?Warning: Error in parsing value for 'display'. Declaration dropped.Source File: http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?Line: 0Security Error: Content at http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/ may not load data from http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?.QUESTION TWO: Why do I receive the follwoing two warning and error messages in my browser log when I access the W3Schools forum login page?Warning: Error in parsing value for 'cursor'. Declaration dropped.Source File: http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/style_images/css_6.cssLine: 667Security Error: Content at http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/ may not load data from http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.ph...gin&CODE=00.QUESTION THREE: Why do I receive the following warning and error messages when I try to log into my account?Warning: Error in parsing value for 'cursor'. Declaration dropped.Source File: http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/style_images/css_6.cssLine: 667Warning: Error in parsing value for 'display'. Declaration dropped.Source File: http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?Line: 0Security Error: Content at http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/ may not load data from http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?.POSSIBLE CLUES: I have noticed that W3Schools.com and the W3Schools' forumS are hosted by different providers. Some enemies are courageous, fight in the open, and must be respected. Others are cowardly, unseen, and despicable.RoddyNo one who takes a stand is without enemies.

[jeffman]

I always get those errors. I believe they are caused by invisionzone, not W3Schools. In some cases, like the "cursor" error, I believe we are observing a brute force way of achieving cross-browser compatibility, since there are 2 cursor definitions in sequence. The "clear:all" error is just sloppy. I have no idea about the "googleleads" error. I do not get a "display" error on Firefox, but I do get a "filter" error, since only IE supports filters, of course.I don't think any of this disrupts my user experience, so I am happy to ignore all of it.Does it really cause you problems, or are you disturbed on principle?

[iwato]

Does it really cause you problems, or are you disturbed on principle?

It causes me serious problems, insofar as my ability to upload and change my forum settings on the fly is seriously disrupted. Some days, no matter what I do, I cannot post. I am often dropped when I go to preview. And, to achieve the simplest changes I must login two or three times. It takes a lot of time to compose good questions and provide adequate responses, and then to be so routinely rejected in such an erratic fashion is very frustrating.I would really like to stay, but if this keeps up I will be compelled to leave against my will.Roddy

[Synook]

There are some coding errors in IPB, the forum software that this site uses, such as the CSS ones that are generated as the page loads; perhaps you would like to report them to Invision Power Services, who wrote the software and who also host this bulletin board.These are CSS errors:

Warning: Error in parsing value for 'cursor'. Declaration dropped.Source File: http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/style_images/css_6.cssLine: 667

The JavaScript errors are caused by the Google ads up the top (as may be evident from the URL), probably as a result of its attempts to determine the page's content for targeting purposes. If you don't like targeted ads... well, I'm sure you'll be able to find another forum without them. But it does not worry me.These are the JS errors:

Security Error: Content at http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/ may not load data from http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?.

I would say with almost complete certainty that the errors you have posted above are not the cause of your problem. If you describe it to us, we could always try to help you (edit conflict).Perhaps no-one is without enemies... but those that seek enemies around every corner may not get very far indeed.

[boen_robot]

I've never seen those errors... but I'd too guess they are caused by IPB Services, not us or W3Schools.Aren't they fixed now?!?

[iwato]

I would say with almost complete certainty that the errors you have posted above are not the cause of your problem. If you describe it to us, we could always try to help you (edit conflict).

It is difficult for me to explain my frustration much better than I already have. Furthermore, as I have already stated, I am very satisfied with the help that I have received in the past. Were I not, I would not have posted this entry.

Perhaps no-one is without enemies... but those that seek enemies around every corner may not get very far indeed.

It is true. Blaming everyone for everything that goes wrong in your life is a recipe for failure. Trust is the foundation to human relations, and no one lives alone in society. On the other hand, a healthy dose of suspicion in a world populated with people who would impose their will on others through stealth, false representation, and brute force is both wise and prudent. Vengeance is a just, but lose-lose outcome.For the moment, I am having no trouble. I will continue to patrol my browser error log, as I suspect that the error and warning messages that I have posted are not a complete list.As always, thank you for responding.Roddy

[jeffman]

Are you perhaps experiencing problems with the rich text editor? There is a documented incompatibility between Firefox 3.6+ and IPB versions 2.x or so. I have experienced this for some time, and I found it very puzzling until I ran across the documentation mentioned above. My solution is to use the fast-reply and quick-edit features as much as possible.The biggest downside to this is having to manually quote other posts, so I don't do that very often.When posting new topics (I don't actually do this much) I generally post "placeholder text" at first and then re-open the post in the quick-editor. It's a cumbersome workaround, but less so than launching Safari or Chrome just to get on this board. I might find it more annoying if I posted new topics more frequently.I don't actually know which version of IPB this board uses, but I assume from the symptoms that it is 2.x. I have no idea what an upgrade would involve, but it might be appropriate.

[iwato]

Are you perhaps experiencing problems with the rich text editor?

Yes, but this is only one source of my difficulty. It can happen in a large variety of places within the site. When the problem occurs, I am told to login again. Unfortunately, logging in repeatedly does not make the problem go away.

There is a documented incompatibility between Firefox 3.6+ and IPB versions 2.x or so. I have experienced this for some time, and I found it very puzzling until I ran across the documentation mentioned above.

I have checked the site, but I am using Firefox 3.5.9 -- not 3.6+. I do this, because Firefox 3.6+ is incompatible with CS3 DW's test server function.

My solution is to use the fast-reply and quick-edit features as much as possible.The biggest downside to this is having to manually quote other posts, so I don't do that very often.When posting new topics (I don't actually do this much) I generally post "placeholder text" at first and then re-open the post in the quick-editor. It's a cumbersome workaround, but less so than launching Safari or Chrome just to get on this board. I might find it more annoying if I posted new topics more frequently.

I do not mind using two browsers simultaneously, as I am a multi-tasker who is always switching between programs anyway. I make good use of Apple's Command-Tab and Command-` functions. I will try Safari.

I don't actually know which version of IPB this board uses, but I assume from the symptoms that it is 2.x. I have no idea what an upgrade would involve, but it might be appropriate.

Any upgrade that I would recommend would likely go ignored. I say this, because this board's management team has never responded to a query from me.RoddyThis message was sent using Safari 4.0.5

[ShadowMage]

Are you perhaps experiencing problems with the rich text editor? There is a documented incompatibility between Firefox 3.6+ and IPB versions 2.x or so. I have experienced this for some time, and I found it very puzzling until I ran across the documentation mentioned above. My solution is to use the fast-reply and quick-edit features as much as possible.The biggest downside to this is having to manually quote other posts, so I don't do that very often.When posting new topics (I don't actually do this much) I generally post "placeholder text" at first and then re-open the post in the quick-editor. It's a cumbersome workaround, but less so than launching Safari or Chrome just to get on this board. I might find it more annoying if I posted new topics more frequently.I don't actually know which version of IPB this board uses, but I assume from the symptoms that it is 2.x. I have no idea what an upgrade would involve, but it might be appropriate.

I've never seen any issues with the text editor and I'm using FireFox 3.6.3. In fact, I've never seen any of the other issues mentioned in this topic except for Firebug occasionally throwing out the following error:Permission denied for <http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net> to call method Location.toString on <http://w3schools.invisionzone.com>.but it's nothing that has ever worried me or affected my ability to log on or post.

[thescientist]

are you guys using the same OS?

[ShadowMage]

are you guys using the same OS?

That's a good question. I'm on WinXP.

[End User]

I've never seen any issues with the text editor and I'm using FireFox 3.6.3.

Same here. Using Firefox 3.6.3 and WinXP, and I haven't seen any errors here that interfere with logging in, posting, or anything else. I don't have any problems that I'm aware of with the editing widows either.I'm wondering if perhaps a plugin or toolbar of some sort is causing a problem. I don't use toolbars, but I do use NoScript.

[thescientist]

I'm wondering if perhaps a plugin or toolbar of some sort is causing a problem. I don't use toolbars, but I do use NoScript.

good point

[jeffman]

I always come here on my Mac (home or office). That might make a difference. I wasn't sure because the link I posted did not reference an OS.