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Hello Everyone, Where can I post SEO topic? In HTML/XHTML Forums or where?

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Here in the General form is fine.
Hi Ingolme, Okie. Will post it shortly... Need some time to gather and organize before posting it here. By the way, I have to for a walk now.
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Hello Everyone, Alrighty, here we go. As per my understanding: 1. The Keyword should repeat twice or thrice in <title>…</title> <title>KEYWORD blah… blah… | KEYWORD blah… blah… blah… | KEYWORD blah… blah… blah… blah…</title> 2. The Keyword should be in: <meta name="description" content="KEYWORD" /><meta name="keywords" content="KEYWORD" /> 3. The Keyword should repeat 3 Times or 5 Times in <body>…</body> 4. The repeated Keywords (3 Times or 5 Times) in the <body>…</body> should be placed between <h1>…</h1> <h1>KEYWORD</h1> 5. The Keyword should be in title="… " <a title="KEYWORD">…<a/> 6. The Keyword should be in alt="…" <img alt="KEYWORD" /> So, what are the other things, factors and considerations to get KEYWORD.html page on the first page on Google searches? The goal is to get the specific page (KEYWORD.html) on the 1st page on Google.

By dsonesuk: 7. The page name should contain hyphen (-) if required. For example if the Keyword is "KEY WORD", then the page name should be "key-word.html" 8. The file names of the Image should be my-keyword-01.jpg and my-keyword-02.jpg 9. We can use Keyword in <h2>KEYWORD</h2> and <h3>KEYWORD</h3> as well without over doing it in <body>...</body>. Maybe 2 times should be fine.
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page names should use hyphens /news-of-keyword.html AND NOT underscore news_of_keyword.html, google is able to separate hyphenated words so it will search by 'news', 'of', 'keyword' compared with search just 'news_of_keyword' which will return near zero results. The same also goes for image filenames my-keyword-01.jpg and my-keyword-02.jpg, you can also use the keyword in <h2> and <h3> as well but don't over do it.

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page names should use hyphens /news-of-keyword.html AND NOT underscore news_of_keyword.html, google is able to separate hyphenated words so it will search by 'news', 'of', 'keyword' compared with search just 'news_of_keyword' which will return near zero results. The same also goes for image filenames my-keyword-01.jpg and my-keyword-02.jpg, you can also use the keyword in <h2> and <h3> as well but don't over do it.
Hi dsonesuk, Okie, gotch you! Please let me know if you find any other information.
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Hello Everyone :-) I was out of station for a while. I am back now. So, what are the other things, factors and considerations to get KEYWORD.html page on the first page on Google searches? The goal is to get the specific page (KEYWORD.html) on the 1st page on Google. By the way how do I check the ranking of a page for specific keyword? Which software do I need to use?

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Google uses an algorithm called PageRank to determine where a page shows up. https://www.google.c...channel=suggest The algorithm is not public, and they change it occasionally to improve the quality of results. One of the most important metrics they use is how many sites of high rank link to your site. You don't get much improvement if sites with a low rank link to you, you get more points if the sites that link to you have high ranks of their own. It also matters which words they include in the link text. So, the thing to take away is that you increase your rank by just building a good site, with good information that other people want to link to. If you think there are a few steps you can do to magically pop up on page 1 instantly, that's incorrect. If you want to go that route then maybe look into purchasing ads for certain keywords so that you show up as a sponsored result when people search for that. Otherwise, a good ranking takes time, especially for popular keywords.

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Hi justsomeguy,

Google uses an algorithm called PageRank to determine where a page shows up. https://www.google.c...channel=suggest
NO NO NO justsomeguy... What I meant was, if we search as "w3schools html" in the Google Search, the www.w3schools.com/html/ shows-up on the Top. So, how to find www.w3schools.com/html/ is on the TOP of the Ranking for "w3schools html" keyword? Hold on, let me try to put this in a different way. Hummm… Alrighty, let’s assume that www.w3schools.com/html/ link is on the 46th ranking. So, we need some kind of Software / Program / EXE to put the "w3schools html" keyword and www.w3schools.com/html/ link to indentify the status of ranking.
The algorithm is not public, and they change it occasionally to improve the quality of results. One of the most important metrics they use is how many sites of high rank link to your site. You don't get much improvement if sites with a low rank link to you, you get more points if the sites that link to you have high ranks of their own. It also matters which words they include in the link text. So, the thing to take away is that you increase your rank by just building a good site, with good information that other people want to link to. If you think there are a few steps you can do to magically pop up on page 1 instantly, that's incorrect. If you want to go that route then maybe look into purchasing ads for certain keywords so that you show up as a sponsored result when people search for that. Otherwise, a good ranking takes time, especially for popular keywords.
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So, what other things do we need to do to get page on the first page on Google searches? The goal is to get the specific page (KEYWORD.html) on the 1st page on Google when some one search for the specific keyword.I request you to please share it.

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Please let me know what are the other things we need to do to get a specific page on the first page on Google searches? The goal is to get the specific page (KEYWORD.html) on the 1st page on Google when some one search for the specific keyword.

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They already told you that it's not just up to the right settings to get a good rank in google search. If your website is interesting and functional, it will attract more people thus creating more traffic and refferences from other websites to your. This is major for a good ranking as JSG said.

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They already told you that it's not just up to the right settings to get a good rank in google search. If your website is interesting and functional, it will attract more people thus creating more traffic and refferences from other websites to your. This is major for a good ranking as JSG said.
Hi TheGallery,I know what JSG said. But however, I just wanted to explore other possibilities to incorporate the required stuffs in the HTML Code.
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valid markup that is clean, semantic, and well organized are three easy and effective techniques you can employ right off the bat. If you aren't sure what constitutes that, conisider posting your code for a code review and we can offer advice. The validator you should be able to do on your own though.

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valid markup that is clean, semantic, and well organized are three easy and effective techniques you can employ right off the bat. If you aren't sure what constitutes that, conisider posting your code for a code review and we can offer advice. The validator you should be able to do on your own though.
Hi thescientist and Everyone, Thanks for your response. Alrighty, here we go............... (Please focus on "SEO Learning" keyword). Like I have been saying, the goal is to get the "seo-learning.html" page on the 1st page on Google Search when some one search as "SEO Learning / seo learning" in Google. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~( seo-learning.html ) <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"><html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><meta name="robots" content="INDEX,FOLLOW" /><meta name="revisit-after" content="2 days" /> <title>SEO Learning | SEO Learning Basics | Search Engine Optimization Learning</title> <meta name="description" content="SEO Learning" /><meta name="keywords" content="SEO Learning" /> <style type="text/css"> body { background-attachment: fixed; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; background-color: #1a1a1a; background-image:url('images/bg.jpg');}.contents { font-family: tahoma; font-size: 12pt; color: #333333;}h1 { font-family: tahoma; font-size: 12pt; display:inline; }h2 { font-family: tahoma; font-size: 12pt; display:inline; }h3 { font-family: tahoma; font-size: 12pt; display:inline; }.style1 { text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold; font-family: tahoma; font-size: 12pt; color: #000080;}div#container { width: 728px; margin: 0 auto; background-color: #FFFFFF;}.FloatRight { float: right;}.tellafriend { font-family: Verdana; color: #FFFFFF; font-size: 8pt; height: 40px; font-weight: bold; text-align: right; text-decoration: none; padding-right: 15px;}.tellafriend:hover { font-family: Verdana; color: #FFFFFF; font-size: 8pt; height: 40px; font-weight: bold; text-align: right; text-decoration: underline;}.tellafriend-a { font-family: Verdana; color: #FFFFFF; font-size: 8pt; height: 40px; font-weight: bold; text-align: right; text-decoration: none; line-height: 47px; background-color: #E5E5E5; background-image: url('images/Nav_BG.png'); background-repeat: repeat-x;}.clearBoth { clear: both;}.copyRight { font-family: Verdana; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0; font-size: 11px; color: #333333; text-decoration: none; background-color: #C9C9C9; height: 30px; text-align: center; vertical-align: middle; line-height: 30px;} </style> </head> <body><div id="container"><div>Google Adv</div><div> </div><div class="tellafriend-a"><a href="mailto:?subject=SEO Learning&body=Hey... Check this URL http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=41170" class="tellafriend" title="SEO Learning">Tell A Friend</a></div><div> </div><div style="float:left;width:553px;padding-left:15px"><br /><span class="contents"><h1>SEO Learning</h1><br /><br /><h2>SEO Learning Basics</h2><br /><h3>SEO Learning Basics</h3><br /><br /><h1>SEO Learning</h1><br /><br /><h1>SEO Learning</h1><br /><br />---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.tutoriali...tutorials/SEO/1" title="SEO Learning">SEO Learning</a><br /><br />---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />---------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span class="style1"><br /></span></div><div class="FloatRight">Google Adv</div><div class="FloatRight" style="background-color:black"> </div><div class="FloatRight">Google Adv</div><div class="clearBoth"> </div><div class="copyRight"> © Copyright 2012 | All rights reserved.</div></div></body> </html>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edited by creative1977
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I'm not sure what you're missing. If you're not interested in how PageRank works then I'm not sure what advice to give you. There is a ton of information about trying to get ranked high if you want to do that research. I think you'll find people saying the same things that we've been saying here. http://www.nerdfrat.com/how-to-get-website-on-first-page-of-googlehttp://www.ehow.com/how_2084407_first-page-google-search-results.htmlhttp://www.convertoffline.com/get-to-the-first-page-of-google-the-4-essentials-of-ranking-a-linkless-small-business-website/

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I'm not sure what you're missing. If you're not interested in how PageRank works then I'm not sure what advice to give you. There is a ton of information about trying to get ranked high if you want to do that research. I think you'll find people saying the same things that we've been saying here. http://www.nerdfrat....-page-of-googlehttp://www.ehow.com/...ch-results.htmlhttp://www.convertof...siness-website/
Hi justsomeguy, LOL... I never asked how does a PageRank works though it's a good idea to know about how does it works. I would like to know the remaining options to put the required things into the HTML code. For example: dsonesuk said:page names should use hyphens /news-of-keyword.html AND NOT underscore news_of_keyword.html, google is able to separate hyphenated words so it will search by 'news', 'of', 'keyword' compared with search just 'news_of_keyword' which will return near zero results. The same also goes for image filenames my-keyword-01.jpg and my-keyword-02.jpg, you can also use the keyword in <h2> and <h3> as well but don't over do it. thescientist said:valid markup that is clean, semantic, and well organized are three easy and effective techniques you can employ right off the bat. If you aren't sure what constitutes that, conisider posting your code for a code review and we can offer advice. The validator you should be able to do on your own though. Similarly, I am looking forward to know more details. By the way, did you see WHERE ALL and HOW I have placed the “SEO Learning” keyword in my HTML Code? Edited by creative1977
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I never asked how does a PageRank works though it's a good idea to know about how does it works.
You asked how to get a page on the first page of results. The algorithm that Google uses to figure out which pages show up is called PageRank. If you want to know how to get ranked high, you need to look into how the PageRank algorithm works.
By the way, did you see WHERE ALL and HOW I have placed the “SEO Learning” keyword in my HTML Code?
Yes, I think you used them too much. There are several headings with the same text in them, Google would probably see that as you trying to stuff keywords into the page. In addition to the links I posted above, here are some more articles about on-site SEO and keywords specifically: http://www.highrankings.com/keyphrase-best-use/http://www.searchrank.com/blog/2007/09/when-your-on-page-seo-goes-too-far.html Note that several of the other articles also stress off-site SEO, which is getting other high-ranking sites to link to you. If you're looking for an instruction manual about what you need in order for PageRank to rank you high, there isn't one. The reason is because the algorithm is not public. All of the articles like this you'll find are essentially guesses, people trying various things and seeing what works and what doesn't.
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Hi justsomeguy,Thanks for the information. Please visit this link - http://www.googlerankings.com/ ... I cannot use it because, I cannot obtain "Your Google™ SOAP API Key*:" to use http://www.googlerankings.com/ .In their "contactus.php" page, it says:

I don't have a Google SOAP API Key. What can I do?Goolge Inc. has discontinued the handout of Google SOAP API Keys. In case you do not have one from before, you may not use our service either. Please don't try to use other Google API Keys ( such as AJAX API, AdWords API, MAPS API... etc. ) as they will not work.
Is there any similar kind of Link or perhaps .exe installation file?
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I would stick to official Google sites for this kind of information. http://support.googl...en&answer=35291
Hi justsomeguy,Okie. Gotch you. Thanks for the info. Let's consider that the following link:http://www.DomainName.com/justsomeguy.htmlis hidden somewhere from Page 1 to Page 10 in Google. Let's consider that your preferred keyword is "justsomeguy" and have done all the required SEO part. Now once again, let's consider that you would like to know the status of your Page Ranking from 1st Page to 10th Page in Google for "justsomeguy" keyword. Now there are 2 options. Option number one. You can visit all the 10 pages to see where exactly is it hidden. Option number two. You would use some kind of Software and put your Keyword (justsomeguy) and your URL (http://www.DomainName.com/justsomeguy.html).So, is there any kind of Software to check the status of http://www.DomainName.com/justsomeguy.html page ranking for "justsomeguy" keyword? Few years ago I had a Software. I am trying to remember the Name of that Software from past couple of weeks but somehow I am unable to remember it.
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A free rank checker, which i use is seobook.com rank checker, you have to register, you enter your domain, then keyword/s and then click start, it then searches through the major search engine google.com, google.co.uk, bing, yahoo etc and list your ranking in each.
Hi dsonesuk, How are you doing mate? Seeing you after a long time. Just now got register and installed Rank Checker plug-in in MFF Browser. But you know what dsonesuk? In the "Domain:" area, it does not allow to paste the exact url. I mean, the Rank Checker does not allow to paste http://www.DomainName.com/dsonesuk.html It just allows - DomainName.com :( wheww... phewww.... I thought it should allow us to put / type / paste the exact URL in that "Domain:" area. SIGH. Edited by creative1977
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