valiantshady Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I believe that if we spent all this time asking "How to be a pro in programming" , in actual practicing, we'd be much more experienced developers by now you're 100% right, I'm not just asking, I've also been working and reading stuff, have been through X HTML , CSS and JavaScripts till now..But the thing is, I don't know much about how to reach a designing skill or technique to create a website that looks like any international website for example :- www.bodybuilding.com for e-commerce, www.nexon.net for gaming or even w3schools forum for forums.. I feel like being in need of directions what to learn first and what's next and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 You don't create professional looking/working websites from the start. You start with one, you learn what you need to know to build it, you ultimately build something that works, but doesn't work as well as it may (though you won't know it), you move on with another project, and you reevaluate all of your past projects to see why they weren't as good, but working non the less.If you have a project in mind, you'll probably have a more specific question about it, which is where we come in.Although I'm willing to make unscheduled exercises, I don't have the time to think of challenging enough exercises (you don't want something as simple as "display the contents of an XML tag on a web page", right? Or do you?) and align them by difficulty, and as I've already stated, such things are not very helpful without a due date attached anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justsomeguy Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 But would you mind if you point us forward.. more like where to start how to know that we've reached the level of expertise of step 1, then give us step two and how do we reach the level of expertise of it.. And so on.. that will be very or too too helpful man.. we'd probably follow everything if you just lead us righteously and maybe after pointing us forward put some website examples for us and tell us to challenge ourselves creating that design and look..I would refer you back to post 7, identify skills that you want to learn and design a small application that uses them. It doesn't need to look professional or be something that you would distribute, it's just a learning exercise to build your knowledge around the skills that you choose to learn. You know what websites can be capable of, so design something which uses things you've seen that you want to learn and then research each point to figure out how to do that part. Focus on building a portfolio of useful skills and techniques that you can use in any site. There's a description of a registration and login system here to get you started: http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=12509 For further study, I would recommend reading some of the books published by O'Reilly: http://shop.oreilly.com/category/browse-subjects/programming/php.do?sortby=bestSellers&sortType=1http://oreilly.com/javascript/index.htmlhttp://oreilly.com/css-html/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantshady Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 You don't create professional looking/working websites from the start. You start with one, you learn what you need to know to build it, you ultimately build something that works, but doesn't work as well as it may (though you won't know it), you move on with another project, and you reevaluate all of your past projects to see why they weren't as good, but working non the less. If you have a project in mind, you'll probably have a more specific question about it, which is where we come in. Although I'm willing to make unscheduled exercises, I don't have the time to think of challenging enough exercises (you don't want something as simple as "display the contents of an XML tag on a web page", right? Or do you?) and align them by difficulty, and as I've already stated, such things are not very helpful without a due date attached anyway. I would refer you back to post 7, identify skills that you want to learn and design a small application that uses them. It doesn't need to look professional or be something that you would distribute, it's just a learning exercise to build your knowledge around the skills that you choose to learn. You know what websites can be capable of, so design something which uses things you've seen that you want to learn and then research each point to figure out how to do that part. Focus on building a portfolio of useful skills and techniques that you can use in any site. There's a description of a registration and login system here to get you started: http://w3schools.inv...showtopic=12509 For further study, I would recommend reading some of the books published by O'Reilly: http://shop.oreilly....lers&sortType=1http://oreilly.com/j...ript/index.htmlhttp://oreilly.com/css-html/index.html I agree with both of you adding that of course I wouldn't ask for something very primitive or for those who are very much of beginners, but I have created some website that had some functions from all sides of XHTML, CSS and Javascripts.. I can always send them compressed to any professional who'd be my mentor and tell me what to do next to learn in the best ways possible..But the problems is, no one is that free to coach me through.. so I try implementing something new every now and then or fixing something that I don't think it has been good enough that I have previously done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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