MrEdit

Try putting text in your nukebillgates element and see if it is ignored. Since the ignored element we're talking about on old browser is frameset, and the one it should read is noframes.

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OK - I just tried that - text within <nukebillgates> is printed anyway...To be honest I rather think I've been distracted off on a red herring here - its an interesting question - but as it only concerns old browsers - and frames seem to be not reccomended anymore anyway... perhaps I am better off getting on with learning to code - I can come back ti this sort of stuff later when my general underrstanding of how the code works is rather better. Thanks for your help though Jon

If you do a lot of PHP, I recommend you try using XAMPP. XAMMP is a installation package that includes Apache, MySQL, PHP...........Although...  if you're using a mac... then yeah... you probably do have to use one of the free websites listed

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I dont want to start a mac vs pc war so early in my posting career here, but I really couldn't let this pass. If you're using a mac (osx) - go to sharing prefs, switch on web sharing. That's it - you now have a full apache web server. Want php? simple matter of uncommenting a couple of lines in the apache config file and you're away. MySQL? - download the MySQL osx installer and install it. I have a fully functioning vbulletin install running on mine - and I knew virtually zero about the guts of the web until a week ago. In fact I've only just started learning HTML! This site (and this forum) is proving most helpful in my studies brilliant tutorial on the subject: Here

ThanksFor this to work - presumably browsers will simply ignore tags they don't understand rather than getting upset about them? If this is the case it all starts to make sense...So I can safely leave a<nukebillgates size="10 megatons"></nukebillgates>tag in my code with no ill effect...<edit>I actually just tried it and (alas...) it was duly ignored.As a matter of interest is this officially sanctioned browser behaviour or just what they all do to be forgiving?

Probably a really dumb question from an HTML beginner - but...If a browser doesnt support frames - how the ###### will it know what to do with the <noframes> tag?maybe its just the trange way my mind works...Just like to point out that the censored word above was not particularly rude - just the opposite of heaven. (pretty stiff censoring policy obviously!)