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Your post on Link: http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=44350 I saw that this thread is locked, but why do you not emphasis the order and structure that PHP classes provide? Not only does it help with order, but also provides the benefit of unit testing. I understand that this is so people can easily report issues. However, wouldn't it be more simple if they just told us what the class functions returned and then just showed their "view" code?