SamuelMSr Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hi all, first of all I would like to say thank you very much for this wonderful resource of information on your site!I need some advice on where to start. My final goal is to be able to build a complete wonderful site in ASP.NET with AJAX. I have a great O'Reily book and have been trying to learn with it and I just keep getting lost.Here is my question...where do I start?I need a "learning plan" of sorts. I am looking for some help from you all that have been through this. I do not have any experience in web design except minimal html, but I am intelligent and willing to learn.I know I should probably start with HTML, XHTML, XML and all that but how should I go about it and where do I go first?My dad has a site www.renocasinochips.co and my final goal is to rebuild this site from the ground up and make it much more interactive and so on.I know the best thing I can do is to get into a school to learn this stuff but that is not an option. Other then this site are there other sites that may have a more structured apporoach? Maybe something like a lesson plan....Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Feel free to respond and/or send me a PM on the boards here.Thanks a ton and have a great week!!Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescientist Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 No offense to you personally, but there a bunch of threads right on this page asking almost the exact same thing, so I will just link you to them, although I'm sure you can figure them out just by reading the topic. Sorry, I would respond personally if it didn't seem like this question has been asked to death this week, with the answer more or less being the same. http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=29361http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=29053http://w3schools.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=29071Simply, there are tutorials on this site for all popular web development languages; just take your pick and start reading. If you have any specific questions, please feel free to ask them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelMSr Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 First of all I appologize for not reading before posting, I am way to often guilty of this. I just came here, started a new topic and went to work typing. I read through those links and am very glad that I did.I have a couple questions. I see people saying to use a simple code editor and I would like to do that, it seems I am not learning as much as I should by using the WYSIWYG programs (Dreamweaver and VWD). I see Context and Notepad++ commented on a lot, what one is better and why?Also, I need a project to work on. I know this might sound silly but it would help me a lot. I need some "structure" in my learning and having something to shoot for at different stages of my experiences and learning would give me a goal to work for and would be a HUGE help.Is there anyone out there that has something that they would like to have done and do not really have a time frame they would like to seen it done in. I could start simple on the project, get it to a certain standard then the standard can be raised and the project can get better and better each time it is upgraded to a certain standard.Anyone have any thoughts on this?Oh, also scientist, your signature has the DOCTYPE thing on it and I have seen you reference it a couple times, I still do not fully understand this. I am guessing it is the first thing that i need to understand, is there anything that I should read that will teach me the "pre" basics (for lack of better term).Thanks a lot all for your help, and I hope we can grow a great relationship as I have a feeling I will be around here for a long time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescientist Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 First of all I appologize for not reading before posting, I am way to often guilty of this. I just came here, started a new topic and went to work typing. I read through those links and am very glad that I did.I have a couple questions. I see people saying to use a simple code editor and I would like to do that, it seems I am not learning as much as I should by using the WYSIWYG programs (Dreamweaver and VWD). I see Context and Notepad++ commented on a lot, what one is better and why?Also, I need a project to work on. I know this might sound silly but it would help me a lot. I need some "structure" in my learning and having something to shoot for at different stages of my experiences and learning would give me a goal to work for and would be a HUGE help.Is there anyone out there that has something that they would like to have done and do not really have a time frame they would like to seen it done in. I could start simple on the project, get it to a certain standard then the standard can be raised and the project can get better and better each time it is upgraded to a certain standard.Anyone have any thoughts on this?Oh, also scientist, your signature has the DOCTYPE thing on it and I have seen you reference it a couple times, I still do not fully understand this. I am guessing it is the first thing that i need to understand, is there anything that I should read that will teach me the "pre" basics (for lack of better term).Thanks a lot all for your help, and I hope we can grow a great relationship as I have a feeling I will be around here for a long time to come.As far as text-editors go, its one half dozen to the other. I like ConTEXT, but others like Notepad++. It's really all about what appeals to you I guess or if one has a specific feature over the other. Try them both and see which one sticks. As Ingolme said in one of those threads, all it's for is writing text (code) in so really the common denominator would apply to Notepad too, but really, who wants to use that!? :)As far as finding projects to work on, I'm sure you know someone who wouldn't mind getting a website done for free. Do you have any hobbies you could make a website about? Personally, I find it harder to do things for myself than I do for others, because of my competitive edge and my need to impress, lol. And the money, haha, that helps too.As far as DTD's go, it's a good practice to get into. It forces browsers to render your page to a stricter set of standards than offered by say a Transitional DTD (which is more to offer legacy support). By coding this way, you can ensure greater cross-browser compatibility, which comes in really handy for IE and gives a solid foundation to start testing against when those inevitable problems come up. That and validating your code will be your two best habits to get into when starting out. You'll get a finer appreciation for the language of HTML and hopefully adopt good practices and habits from early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescientist Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 oh yeah, and welcome to the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelMSr Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 As far as DTD's go, it's a good practice to get into. It forces browsers to render your page to a stricter set of standards than offered by say a Transitional DTD (which is more to offer legacy support). By coding this way, you can ensure greater cross-browser compatibility, which comes in really handy for IE and gives a solid foundation to start testing against when those inevitable problems come up. That and validating your code will be your two best habits to get into when starting out. You'll get a finer appreciation for the language of HTML and hopefully adopt good practices and habits from early on.LOL I hate to sound like a moron, but I do not even know what DTD is. Can you elaborate or direct me to a place where I can learn about it.As far as finding projects to work on, I'm sure you know someone who wouldn't mind getting a website done for free. Do you have any hobbies you could make a website about? Personally, I find it harder to do things for myself than I do for others, because of my competitive edge and my need to impress, lol. And the money, haha, that helps too.I would much rather find something to do for someone else that can give me an outline of what they want then critisize my work, including knowing the code enough to tell me if I am screwing things up. That is why it would be awesome if someone on here could come up with a project that I could work on for them, even if they just made something up As far as text-editors go, its one half dozen to the other. I like ConTEXT, but others like Notepad++. It's really all about what appeals to you I guess or if one has a specific feature over the other. Try them both and see which one sticks. As Ingolme said in one of those threads, all it's for is writing text (code) in so really the common denominator would apply to Notepad too, but really, who wants to use that!?I downloaded and played around with ConTEXT and it seems pretty cool, the one thing that I did not want to lose with using programs like Dreamweaver was the color coding of the "code" and this program will do it. Other then that I am pretty new and I doubt I will notice much difference between any of the others lol.Thanks for the information, I will be a bit of a pest on here for a while why I get all this started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 LOL I hate to sound like a moron, but I do not even know what DTD is. Can you elaborate or direct me to a place where I can learn about it. Doctype declarationYou can see details about it in the XHTML tutorial... when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuelMSr Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 Doctype declarationYou can see details about it in the XHTML tutorial... when the time comes.Thank you very much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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