aspnetguy Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Now forgive me if this is a dumb question but I am trying ot setup an old pc as a webserver, mostly for playing around.Does Windows 98 have an limitations (eg. Windows XP only allows 5 concurrent users when used as a webserver).My goal is to use PWS so I can still run ASP.Net. If there are too many limitations I'll have to use apache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Well, I don't know of any "limitations" in the true scence of the word, but Windows 98 is even a lot more insecure as it's little brother Windows XP and the soon to be born baby called Vista. There are all kinds of worms and other threads that would (if they haven't already) practically destroyed the whole OS. I would strongly advise NOT to use Windows 98 for any kind of web work, and using it as web server only adds oil into the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspnetguy Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 that was what I was expecting to hear.Okay then, does Windows XP still have the 5 user limit even if I use Apache instead of IIS?If so, what is a good version of linux to be used as a web server and is still easy to use since I have never used linux?I have been playing with Fedora Core 4 but can't get the internet connection to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I don't think it has that limit with Apache. Apache is a third party application after all, but I can't really guarantee that the limit would be removed. To ensure the security of the server, you would also need to have a decent antivirus and firewall btw. I would recommend Norton Internet Security: It has both Antivirus included, and a really great firewall which keeps all ports stealth and yet allows files to be viewed by everyone (meaning users are free and network scanners are not). I used it until recently when the application realized it's not exactly bought.As for a linux version... I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Goat Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I use 98 for almost everything. I have one XP computer, but it's a piece of junk, so mainly I use 98, and I haven't had any problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspnetguy Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 Thanks boen.I will have a router firewall plus the XP firewall and I do have good anti-virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boen_robot Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I use 98 for almost everything. I have one XP computer, but it's a piece of junk, so mainly I use 98, and I haven't had any problems with it. That's what they all say, until one day the computer refuses to run the Windows or just starts to run veeery slow. At that point they come to a computer service (IT specialist residence if you prefer or whatever) like the one I'm currently working at (*yeah, I'm bragging *) where they realize it's too late to save their precious data (if any). Oh, how I love to tell them they should have upgraded. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside . (Un?)fortunatly, I don't get much of those nowadays.@aspnetguy just curious... what do you mean by "router firewall"? A proxy server, or a simmilar device that devides the speed between the PCs behind it? You do realize that everyone outside the network should adress the router, which should have to be preconfigured to redirect the request to your PC, right? I have just the exact same type of router here (MikroTik), and I have no idea how to configure it properly for that kind of purpose.Even if I did though, I've read some reviews that such devices secure completely the PCs behind them, but fail to secure themselves by exposing the ports they have opened and closed. I would rather prefer a single self secured PC, which would stealth all of it's ports, with a real IP adress and thus avoid unnecessary configurations. If additional PCs are needed, the secured PC itself could be used as a "bridge" between itself and other PCs behind it. The only purpose which I use the router for is to devide the internet speed among me and my neigbours AND not to allow anyone outside the network an internet acces (the router checks the MAC adresses).If you use a Router, there's no need for a firewall btw. The Router takes all the damage. If you have an Antivirus with an included firewall or a stand alone firewall(with or without a router) you should disable the Windows firewall, or should I say "leave only one firewall running". Otherwise, their rules may overlap, thus resulting in errors or missing threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspnetguy Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 okay sure,I am using a router to share my interenet connection, I have already taken care of the dchp ip issue, If this pc gets hacked it is not that big of a deal, I am mostly doing it to learn how to setup a server. There will be no shared drives, folders, anything between the server and my main PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspnetguy Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 I have found something that may let me run WindowsXP, Apache and still have ASP.Net.http://www.mono-project.com/DownloadsMono claims to allow ASP.Net to run on Apache so this is looking like what I will do.I am going to give Fedora one more shot with a fresh install and if I can't get any results it is out.Thanks for your advice guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justsomeguy Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I would think that even Windows 98 would be fine if the only thing you are using it is as an offline development server. It's pretty hard to screw that up. Just don't put that thing on the public net though. But you may also run into problems trying to run ASP.NET with PWS, which I guess is 8 years old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspnetguy Posted June 17, 2006 Author Share Posted June 17, 2006 yeah, I am going ot run win XP that way I know what I have. I dumped Linux last night...what a pain in the butt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justsomeguy Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Yeah, I tried installing Linux a few years ago and it was a nightmare trying to get everything to work right. It was a nightmare trying to get it to install in the first place.. people can say what they want about Windows, but at least it's easy to install the thing, it's almost automatic. IBM needs to come out with a good Linux installer, their installers for their Windows servers make the Windows installer look like a cheap hackjob. I think a friendly and robust installer is the main thing that is stopping widespread Linux adoption. It's almost like the developers went out of their way to make it as confusing as possible to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspnetguy Posted June 17, 2006 Author Share Posted June 17, 2006 I found that fedora core had a decent installer and it was mostly a graphical interface...I just couldn't get eh internet connection to configure. I followed all the sets in the installation guide but the internet connection just wouldn't work.In less time then it took to install linux and fool with the network settings I now have XP installed, apache, php, mysql, phpmyadmin, and wordpress all installed and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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