haha, thanks, I am a long way from understanding enough to even start it right now. Graphics in C++ are insane!I did a bit of comparision. It takes almost 300 lines of code just to make a 'window' in C++, while it takes 0 lines in C# when using Visual Studio.I have about 600 lines of C++ code I and I now have a multicolor, rotating 3D triangle. lol